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Initial post: Jun 21, 2011 4:40:32 AM PDT
CLC says:
DR ROLLER,1.5mm,BRAND NAME,SKIN ROLLER,1.5,FDA approved,Micro Needle System,For Derma skin Care Creams and SerumsDerma Roller By Rejuveness (1.5 mm) Gold Plated Titanium Alloy Needle, a common cosmetic procedure for treating many conditions by stimulating collagen and elastin production. Effective for * Stretch Mark Removal * Anti Aging * Repair Acne Scarring * Wr...

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 6, 2011 5:23:18 AM PDT
Hello again, there's no roller that's FDA approved. This is classified as Medical device class I which requires no approval. They just register and this means that US FDA doesn't test safety or effectiveness. And as I mentioned in my previous reply posting, it's not safe to use rollers with long needles like 1.0, 1.5mm. This will cause lots of bleeding. If you do it home without proper numbing you wouldn't be even able to insert the needles and there's no point of using long needles. Use GENOSYS 540 Microneedle Roller Vibrating Function, Head Detachable with 0.25mm but 540 needles. If you use the right product with it you will achieve very good improvements.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2011 12:26:26 PM PDT
Sherry Holt says:
What would the right product to use be??

Posted on Jan 7, 2012 8:43:01 AM PST
dsfoxy says:
As a licensed esthetician I recommend NOT using this product or any product that punctures the skin.

Posted on Jan 9, 2012 9:51:40 AM PST
apsara says:
I HIGHLY recommend the use of a derma roller. I use rejuveness 540 needle 1.00mm & 3.00mm needle length and have absolutely no problems, or adverse reactions. Contrary, the skin on my face neck and decolette have improved quite a bit, and continue to do so. I have never made myself bleed from using a roller...common sense here, please. It is my opinion that estheticians don't want this product known for home use, because it takes away their ridiculously high prices to do the same exact thing. After rolling, I apply a good vitamin c serum, and copper peptide to the skin, and know what the results are. If you are rolling so hard that you are bleeding, then you are rolling too hard. The needles have to be long enough to penetrate the skin and get deep down in, and stimulate the collagen to be stimulated. I tried a 0.5mm and it was useless. Hey ladies use your own mind, and don't be influenced by negative opinions.

Posted on Jan 19, 2012 7:11:09 PM PST
I love my roller although I use a .50 which is plenty for me. I see fantastic results and have no problems with it. I also use a copper peptide but I would like to mention that you should never use a vitamin c with copper they do not work well together or at least keep them 24 hours apart when using a roller.

Posted on Jan 25, 2012 4:31:56 AM PST
Kimme says:
When I used on my face I almost always drew blood-and I had an esthetician friend show me how to use it correctly.

here is the link to one I used my review is there as well: http://www.amazon.com/ROLLER-approved-NEEDLE-SYSTEM-CREAMS/dp/B002OO8PB6/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

Essentially I drew blood no matter how I used it, I don't think it made my skin absorb anything better and I saw more black heads when using it. I do have very sensitive skin though-perhaps more resistant skin can handle it but I couldn't, and I used a number of different rollers over the course of two years. I will say this-it made my skin tone more even which was what I needed at the time. I still give it a 4 out 5-but I no longer use the product and probably will not again.

Posted on Jan 28, 2012 11:51:14 PM PST
Hello.. Using long needles is not always beneficial. The rollers should be used with proper knowledge, training and education. The size of needles and solution (ingredients) need to be chosen carefully according to the skin condition. GENOSYS Meso Home Kit Microneedling System (Anti-wrinkle)

Posted on Jan 30, 2012 6:08:50 AM PST
Pakratz2 says:
What kind of vitamin A or vitamin C cream woul I use. Do you use prescription strength Retin A? Or, if not what over the counter creams would I use? Thanks for your advice.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2012 10:05:13 PM PST
Kimme says:
I used Retina Micro, but stopped in winter months because my skin was too dry being exposed to the harsh winter elements. I switched to green cream level 9-same results, and finally settled on replenix 10X smoothing serum (I used this up until very recently).

As for vitamin c-I mostly used skinceuticals CE ferulic, and I did try using Elizabeth Arden Prevage serum very briefly along side the derma-roller. Best of luck!

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 5:30:12 PM PDT
Consumer, please be advised that in the US there are NO FDA Approved skin microneedling devices. The reason is simple. The FDA currently only requires that the devices be FDA Registered as a Class I device (non-medical or surgical). What this means to you is that there is no overview by the FDA yet.

How can you rely on the claims made by the many skin needling device manufacturers and online sellers? If the device manufacturer has already undergone the tedious and rigorous process of becoming a Class II medical device for example in Europe or Australia, then you have a much better point of reference and for comparison. The internet is full of sellers and resellers of skin needling devices.

What does having a Class II device designation mean? Simply, a Class II designation means that the device is a medical/surgical device that has been approved by the respective country or zones e.g European Union that have developed a set of standards that have to be met. If the devices are made in countries without rigorous standards created for public safety reasons, you may have reasons for concern.
For example, Dermaroller®, the originator and developer of skin microneedling devices, is a Class II device in the EU and Australia, and soon in Canada. You can visit Dermarollerus.com to obtain more facts.

Posted on Jun 30, 2012 2:52:37 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 4, 2012 1:13:10 PM PDT
BammalamaBoo says:
Dude, or "hansderma Inc.," I keep seeing you plugging these genosys rollers over and over again (even in other threads) but clearly, you have your own reasons for claiming these are the only rollers worth buying....and wtf, a vibrating head roller? You've to be kidding me! Did you guys rip off this idea from those vibrating razors that came out a while ago? Its not the same thing! I would never let a vibrating micro needle near my face, and FYI, longer needles ARE better if you're using them to stimulate collagen because the needles need to be able to penetrate deep enough. Short is only better if you are only trying to get your serums and creams to penetrate better.

Also, ive read that its really not uncommon to bleed after rolling and that it is supposedly nothing to worry about. In fact, those with scarring (like acne scarring etc) claim that you usually need to bleed to go deep enough to force the skin to remodel when it heals...im not sure i would be cool with doing that myself, but other people seem to be doing it. I do know you bleed a LOT when you get it done professionally (they also use longer needles at 2.0mm).

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 23, 2012 8:06:45 PM PDT
mary beedle says:
I have been trained By Dr. Setterfield in using Medical grade rollers. I am a medical provider. Look him up. You should not use rollers at home larger than 0.5 and 0.5 is considered medical grade. There is alot of blood. If you do not have blood with the long needles it is not the right way to do it. I think some people are confusing the HOME needles 0.25 and 0.3 with the medical grade. Never use 3.0 mm. Crazy people are trying to sell you stuff.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 25, 2012 6:26:55 PM PDT
BammalamaBoo says:
"Medical Grade" just means it's sterilized as far as I know, and from what I've read it's actually the 3m rollers that are considered surgical and only sold to doctors. A .5m roller will help enhance the penetration of topical products but it's not going to do anything for someone wishing to address wrinkles, acne scars or stretch marks. I totally agree though, that people should be very careful with this kind of thing--especially if they're gonna do it on their face! I had a doctor once that told me to start out with .5m and then work my way up but only to 1.5. I was seeing an esthetician once that told me not to bother b/c it didn't do much (heh, yeah probably she'd only admit it did something if she could charge me $300 a session for it b/c I once heard her mention that she does it on her own face for HER acne scars), really the opinions vary as to what length you should use and how often. Personally, I think I'd rather go with the dermastamp because it seems more stable.

Posted on Oct 25, 2012 6:57:55 PM PDT
With very few exceptions, all micro needle rollers are made of plastic, are disposable, single use instruments except for the devices designed for home use i.e. rollers with microneedles that are <0.3 mm in length which can be reused. Medical grade devices have needles with lengths measuring 0.5mm and greater. All Medical Grade devices are sterile because they penetrate the skin and can cause bleeding and complications if not properly used. If the medical grade rollers are not individually packaged and are not guaranteed to be sterile don't use them. Furthermore, reusing a previously sterile roller can be dangerous. That is why they come sterilized in the first place. There are no current effective methods to re-sterilize rollers, guarantee that no bacteria or fungi have grown on the roller and needles, or to maintain needle sharpness. That is why they are disposable.

Well trained medical practitioners never use microneedles that are 3.0mm on otherwise normal skin or on patients that have severe acne scars. Why? Because needles with this length penetrate so deeply that excessive bleeding, severe bruising and damage to the dermis can occur. Do your research prior to buying any microneedle roller. They are significant differences in design, needle quality and length which determines when, where and in which conditions they are used.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 24, 2013 6:17:48 PM PST
J. Brady says:
You need to use different sized needles depending upon where you are using the roller! A 0.5 needle did nothing at all for my hips and thighs, whereas Ive seen noticable results with the 1mm needle size. My doctors says the skin in some areas of the body has a thicker outer layer than in other areas, so requires a longer needle.

Posted on Feb 19, 2013 2:49:30 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 19, 2013 2:49:38 PM PST
GoGirlGo says:
How often are you supposed to use the derma roller? I have the 1.5 and have used it (relatively gently) about every 2nd week. Is this too little?

Also looking for a decent product that won't sting for putting on afterwards.

P.S. More or less consistently for the last 2 to 3 months, but have not noticed a difference.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 24, 2013 9:17:34 AM PDT
Hi,I just purchased a roller with 2,5 needles,but have no idea how often I should use it...one or twice a week? Maybe you have some info you'd like to shre.Thanks

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 24, 2013 4:56:20 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 24, 2013 5:05:41 PM PDT
lyn king says:
Do NOT use that size at home it is way too long for home use!!! I have been dermarolling for 8 months at home with a .5mm needle.I use good organic prodects then dermaroll over the products.Three times a week is all you need to stimulate collagen production.I am 47 years old with a few wrinkles and sun damage.I started to see results after 3 mos .Go on You tube and put in "dermaroler" Look for videos by whitelotusantiaging.They are very thourogh.I looked aroung and did other reasearch and spoke to a few dermatologists to come up with my program.I also use epicuren products.I bought the facial kit on Amazon .I had used these products in the past with great antiaging results,now with the dermaroller AMAZING!!! Trust me the .5mm is plenty for home use.I use a 1.5 on my leggs where I have a tiny bit of cellulite with (again) an ALL Natural product.Watch the videos on you tuble.Look also on youtube for The Duches of Dermis this is an example of how you DO NOT want to do it.You do not need to use a topical numbing cream then dermaroll over it,long term this will lead to nerve damage and IS NOT neccessary.A.5mm is all you need,along with a great all natural antiaging cream.Trust me ,I have seen great results in myself.Consistancy and repetition along with a great prodect is the key.There is NO need to see alot of blood all over your face with a needle that is way TO LONG .More is not better in this case! It is overkill .Why put yourself thru all that pain and mess when it IS NOT neccesary.Good luck.I love my results and will continue to roll 3X a week.I am happy to share my experience of what has worked for me.The videos on you tube really answered alot of my questions.My sister is 53 and doing the same program as I am also watched all the vids on youtube and spoke with cosmetic Drs she knows personally.We got togather and came up with our regeme.It works! The ALL NATURAL products are ESSENTIAL.My face is worth the money!

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 24, 2013 5:18:13 PM PDT
lyn king says:
Also you MUST sanitize the roller with alcohol!!! I use a small spray bottle with rubbing alcohol.I spray the roler then hit it with my blowdrier quickly,before putting it back it its case.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 31, 2013 3:54:32 PM PDT
K. KELLY says:
Will you be kind and share what copper peptide you use? Thank you very much!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 6, 2013 12:35:01 PM PDT
What products should I use with this machine?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 12, 2013 8:00:38 AM PDT
I use 'timeless' CE Ferulic. It is only 30$ a bottle. It is stable C 20% which the recomended dose is 10% for most brands. I tried using Skinceuticals. I bought 2 bottles at different times for 110$ per bottle. It smelled so bad I couldn't stand it. I threw both bottles away (about a year between purchases). I find this product available on Amazon to be wonderful and the smell is very minimal.

In reply to an earlier post on May 11, 2013 2:29:49 PM PDT
Thank you for posting and your information is valid but siting anything about the FDA is as being a consumer advocate is a joke considering how little they care about the American public. The integrity of the FDA means nothing anymore given recent proof of who they REALLY work for. Look at our food sources and how they're regulated. Enough said.
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