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In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2011 7:11:34 AM PDT
MarkAntney says:
Great Remake (Melisa's) but not quite on Prince's original to me, for some reason it sounds different/though excellent from the original?????

I equate her version to the Simply Red's remake of "If You Don't Know Me", great, very good but not better than the original.

I say Lutha's remakes: "Going In Circles", "I Who Have Nothing" (w Martha Wash), "If This World Were Mine" (w Cheryl), "Superstar", and "Think I'm Going Outta Of My Head", are BETTER than the originals?

Same with Chaka's "I Feel For You",

GAP Band's, "Goin In Circles" (equal to the original)

But the best Remake is Al Green's "How Can You Mend,..." of the Bee Gee's original.

Aretha's "Respect" is up there too.

so is George Michael's, "I Can't Make You Love Me".

Posted on Aug 17, 2011 3:44:27 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 17, 2011 4:03:09 PM PDT
"When You're Young and In Love" - done so many times by so many artists (probably many done by Van McCoy), I would actually call that a "standard"! Yeah....there's Ruby & the Romantics, sweet, simple and harmonious....Marvelettes did a most beautiful, graceful version...Stacy Lattisaw's was pretty cute. I would say my favorite would be Ralph Carter's -youthful, energetic, completely soaring...

Posted on Aug 18, 2011 6:08:27 AM PDT
jimmy0803 says:
"Funky Broadway"-Wilson Pickett.
the original by Dyke and the Blazers was top-notch, but the "wicked pickett's" version was stellar.

Posted on Aug 19, 2011 2:46:34 PM PDT
ones things for sure , no hip hop version of any funk or soul song is worth a tenth of the original.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 20, 2011 3:28:02 PM PDT
MarkAntney says:
Not so fast Playa!!!!!

What about Chaka,Chaka,Chaka Khan's w/ Melle Mel on Prince's "I Feel For You"?

Though very Old School, that's Hip Hop?

And what about the FOUNDING Father Tune of Hip Hop Collaboration (ironically the song came AFTER "I Feel for YOu" :):):):),...

"Walk This Way" with Aerosmith and Run DMC?

But I'm probably one of the few from my era, I'm almost mid40s that inspite of liking both Aerosmith: "Dream On", "Sweet Emotion", "Love In an Elevator", "Tell me What It Takes",...

And too many to list from RDMC but start with "It's Like That" and stop @ "Down With the King",...

I never really liked the RDMC/Aerosmith song, I liked the creativity of it though but not the song itself too much?

Posted on Aug 22, 2011 9:34:25 PM PDT
For me, The Choice Four did the definitive version of Van McCoy's "When your young and in love" which was reissued onto cd about a decade ago by Koch records but is now tough to find.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 23, 2011 6:24:18 AM PDT
MarkAntney says:
I say "Yes" and "No" to the Disco Uptemp theory, for there's a few exceptions, Ibelieve:

"More Than A Woman"-both versions, "If I Can't Have You", "Boogie Shoes", I remember "Rise" not having a Fast Temp either. But when I think about it, I can't envision DISCO Clubs bumpin "Disco Lady":):):), I have to agree I don't think it was considered a Disco song?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 23, 2011 6:47:31 AM PDT
jimmy0803 says:
agreed. putting the word "disco" into the title of "Dsco Lady" was a brilliant marketing scheme. Columbia Records also did this with Tyrone Davis' "Get On Up (Let's Disco)", which no doubt helped it sell records.

Posted on Aug 23, 2011 1:23:13 PM PDT
K.J.S. says:
I just found out I Spy For The F.B.I was originally done by Luther Ingram and not Jamo Thomas.Both versions are great

Posted on Aug 24, 2011 5:52:34 AM PDT
jimmy0803 says:
all 3 versions of the Bobby Womack-penned, "I'm In Love" are great! Bobby's; Wilson Pickett's; and Aretha Franklin's.

Posted on Aug 25, 2011 5:16:05 PM PDT
Alex H says:
Donna Summer - "MacArthur Park"
Remake of Richard Harris version. Although this was considered a disco remake, the orchestration and especially Summer's soaring voice was so much more than just a disco tune.

Diana Ross - "Ain't No Mountain High Enough"
Maybe this one doesn't count because the arrangement was so different than the Marvin Gaye/Tammy Terrell duet.

Janis Joplin - "Piece Of My Heart"
I love her searing version of Erma Franklin's song.

Tina Turner - "You're No Good"
Cover of Betty Everette song, remade again by Linda Ronstadt. Although the popular version and hit was Ronstadt's, Turner's version (while she was still with Ike & The Ikettes) is the best, imo.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 13, 2011 6:32:28 PM PDT
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Posted on Sep 15, 2011 5:11:41 PM PDT
Neil Young's "Down By The River" was covered by the Meters and Lordy, does Nocentelli rip it up on the guitar, yessireebob.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 16, 2011 6:37:56 AM PDT
jimmy0803 says:
didn't Buddy Miles also cover "Down By The River"? his version was nice as well.

Posted on Oct 1, 2011 10:35:57 PM PDT
Miami Nights says:
A Taste of Honey's "Sukiyaki," originally by Kyu Sakamoto. The cover has different lyrics and is sung in a different language, but it's just as good.

Keith Sweat's "In the Rain," originally by The Dramatics. I personally think Keith Sweat's version is slightly better, but The Dramatics' version is nothing to sneeze at.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2011 6:17:46 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 3, 2011 6:18:46 AM PDT
jimmy0803 says:
miami, it's all a matter of opinion, but the Dramatics' "In The Rain" is one of the greatest slow-jams ever made, from the Lenny Mayes-led "live-version" to the original led by former lead vocalist William "Wee-Gee" Howard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNiFP8UI1zY

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 7, 2011 6:54:03 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 7, 2011 6:59:02 AM PDT
I love a good 80s drum machine as every one else, but in the case of Sweat's version of "In the Rain", it kinda killed it, at least I took it less seriously, not to mention made it less "dramatic", than the Dramatics - aside from light strings, minimalist use of guitar, drums, and keys - to heighten the natural mood, emotions, of the vocals.

Posted on Oct 7, 2011 1:14:22 PM PDT
della p. says:
Sweet thing- mary j.bligh/chaka kahn, love both verisions, but i think mary j. verision is better.
Sitting in the park- billy stewart/GQ, I have to go with billy stewart
Whip appeal- babyface/whispers. i like the original from babyface, but the whispers verision is more jazzy, have to go with the whispers.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 8, 2011 2:01:45 AM PDT
Miami Nights says:
I agree that The Dramatics' version features more musical artistry that lends it a more atmospheric quality than Keith Sweat's.

Don't get me wrong. I do like The Dramatics' performance, but there are certain music parts that take me out of it, such as the reverberating guitar and some of the keyboard flourishes.

While I do agree that all the drum machine programming in the Keith Sweat one cheapens it, the more simple background music also puts the focus more on the vocals.

I'd like to hear a more stripped down version of The Dramatics' song.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 8, 2011 6:20:34 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 8, 2011 6:22:05 PM PDT
MarkAntney says:
I have the the EXACT same opinion but I'd reverse the recipients:):), the Dramatics version is better to me, slightly.

My gauge is, I don't ever remember hearing the Dramatics version (car, home, clubs,...) and not wanting to hear the entire song? Keith's, I've skipped a time or two.

And I'm wondering if you prefer Keith's MORE BECAUSE you were grinding to it IN DA CLUBs in the 80s:):):)?

For Keith's songs sound REAL good in a club.

I remember you could play the entire Album/CD in a Club or Party!!!

Oh and they have others and a few fast cuts too, their Greatest Hits is a Great CD.

Posted on Oct 10, 2011 10:49:18 AM PDT
jimmy0803 says:
i'm sorry.Sweat's version doesn't come close imo. part of the problem with later-day music was the lack of background vocals and harmonizing which made the older groups special.
Mary's "Sweet Thing" is identical to Chaka's and certainly not better. that's Chaka's song. Mary didn't do anything to distinguish herself in in "her version", likewise in her remake of Gwen "Rose" Dickey's "I'm Going Down". Mary did the same exact song.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 11, 2011 10:07:48 AM PDT
MarkAntney says:
I say it comes close because it is a Good Version of the Song.

Do you like Simply Red's "If You Don't Know Me"? I do and it stands on it's own but it's not better than HMBNs.

And you're right about Mary, she has songs on her own but her remakes are almost karaoke:):) but good karaoke:):)

Rose Dickey (Rolls Royce), it's a shame after all those hits how they were Gypped, she was a Bartender in the local club, when I was in High School.

Rolls Royce had some songs back then.

Don't know if anyone (including me) mentioned, but Whitney's remake of the Manhattan's "Just the Lonely (talking again)" is a LOT better than a pretty good original.

Posted on Nov 6, 2011 6:29:11 PM PST
Manhattans all the way in the battle with Whitney.

I thought the Dramatics "In the rain" was already pretty stripped down. IMHO Keith did a respectable job but it's probably the weakest cut on Make it last forever. It does have different adlibs and peaks and valleys.

Posted on Nov 8, 2011 8:39:18 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 8, 2011 8:40:57 AM PST
May be the greatest blasphemy what I shall say; I kinda dig Jellybean Benitez's "Jingo" over Babatunde Olatunji's. Sure, the Nigerian-styled original has an earthy, chant-like quality, definitely infectious use of the bongos, maybe it's that most of my favorite dance music comes from the eighties, and also, this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5SV_17vnkU
Add to the bongos, Synthesizers+electric guitar+all the beautiful women eyes can see+an extra- hammy Jellybean = AWESOME!

Posted on Nov 8, 2011 4:57:37 PM PST
Alex H says:
I would like to add Ike & Tina's version of "Proud Mary."
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