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o.m.g. when ill this cruelty ever end!


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Initial post: Jun 4, 2012 6:04:45 AM PDT
this is today:

Jun 3, 2012 6:26:04 PM PDT
Stephen T. Main says:

What a ridiculously biased review. In the middle of so many thoughtful reviews of this book, your stands out for its total lack of nuance or curiosity. Wow.

Posted on Jun 4, 2012 6:05:02 AM PDT
please add a w to ill above

Posted on Jun 4, 2012 7:01:03 AM PDT
Ciaran says:
Which book?

Posted on Jun 4, 2012 8:16:16 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 8:49:11 AM PDT
Lonya says:
"the continual harassing and painful comment "

Let's think about this for a moment Charles. Is there anything in the review that actually responds to anything in the book other than on some meta I don't eat meat and any book that promotes it is evil? Is there anything in the review that provides some indication that you actually read it? What exactly did you expect when you posted that review? You posted a review which some may rightfully feel was rather emotionally chrged. Why would you consider a response that was really actually calmer in tone (if slightly) than your review to be harassing and painful when it seems clear that you actually invite that sort of response?

I certainly don't want to change or modify your reviewing style and your passion is admirable. Just don't expect a sympathetic audience from me when you passionate review gets a passionate response.

Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I go like this."
Doctor: "Don't go like this."

Posted on Jun 4, 2012 9:31:55 AM PDT
Teahouse Fox says:
The comment was a fair assessment of your review. There was nothing about your review that indicated that you read the book, intended to read the book, or give it a fair assessment. Instead you used a Vine selection as a soapbox, and nothing more than a platform to rant... poorly, at that.

If you truly wanted to make some use of the opportunity, and create a useful review (I know... wild concept) you would have been better served to read the book and refute it's main points, perhaps with a book of well thought out arguments against the consumption of meat.

As an omnivore, there was nothing in your review that sparked any interest in me for your viewpoint, either of the book, or the subject in general.

In fact, I'm more inclined to read the book.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 11:19:32 AM PDT
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Posted on Jun 4, 2012 11:35:40 AM PDT
Teahouse Fox says:
Annnnnd? I'm sorry, was there a point? Or perhaps an actual contrast or comparison aside from an inaccurate word count?

Did you have a question about my review? Maybe you thought it was a pro-app rant and wished clarification? Perhaps you played the game and though the app worthy of a few more paragraphs.

Posted on Jun 4, 2012 11:57:02 AM PDT
Ciaran says:
I think it's funny that the person who commented has only one review, and a fantastically poor non-review at that: http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A7UQHXSNEDQYP/ref=cm_cr_rev_detpdp

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 1:38:42 PM PDT
Teahouse Fox says:
Not at all.

I've already contrasted it to what I thought might have been a more productive review that would have effectively derailed the lone comment lobbed at it, preventing the "cruelty" you originally complained about in your OP.

Although, it *is* possible that you don't really wish to know "when [w]ill this cruelty end", and are merely message board attention seeking without ever intending to take any of the various suggestions offered you, from multiple posters, to heart.

In which case, I've crashed a pity party.

Posted on Jun 4, 2012 2:28:14 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 2:40:51 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 4, 2012 2:45:39 PM PDT
If you want people to eat more beans (as you say in your review), then
you need to give out recipes. This is a recipe I adapted to
taste. It is rather good.

Black Bean Dip

1 (15-ounce) can black beans, drained and rinsed
1 clove garlic, pressed
1-2 tablespoons vegetable oil
2 teaspoons fresh lime juice
1 teaspoon Fleur de Sel or sea salt, crushed

1. Place all ingredients in a medium bowl and mash well.
2. Stir and serve with tortilla chips.

I think your review would have been more well received if you had told something about the book itself instead of just typing out your opinions on the subject. Like maybe take points from the book and argue for or against them. I was surprised by your dislike of the book because the title implies the author is against eating meat and is probably a vegetarian. But from other reviews I read this does not seem to be the case. I rarely get the responses you do since
mostly I explain the content of a book in the review. I think you actually like getting these types of responses and like talking about them too. To you I think it proves you are doing something to help your cause.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 2:42:32 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 2:47:19 PM PDT
Well get busy soaking and boiling them cause it is going to take a while. lol

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 3:08:05 PM PDT
Peter Faden says:
"and the tortilla chips " (salt with saturated fat)
:)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 3:09:35 PM PDT
right, I mean, heart attack just LOOKING at the things, and yet
so
very
irresistible

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 3:15:13 PM PDT
Peter Faden says:
"Some people think the "plant-based, whole foods diet" is extreme. Half a million people a year will have their chests opened up and a vein taken from their leg and sewn onto their coronary artery. Some people would call that extreme."
-Dr. Esselstyn

seemed topical.

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Peter Faden says:
You know, I work in a hospital and can affirm that fact.

ed: I guess closing with the word fact after using affirm was somewhat pointless, lol.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 3:28:32 PM PDT
At least I'm going to die happy with the taste of good food in my mouth. :)
AND...I buy organic and natural a lot of the time. The tortilla chips are made
with canola oil and the beans are organic and have sea salt in them.

I didn't think sea salt from France was toxic.
I thought it was only table salt we were supposed to avoid.

You have to ask yourself...Is it better to live well and die early or be extreme
and freaked out about all your food and die a few years later? AND...could
the stress of always worrying about your food not kill you too?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 3:34:34 PM PDT
Peter Faden says:
or....is it better to live well AND enjoy yourself AND not increase your odds of dying horribly. For some, food is the end all be all, and they are willing to give up health and longevity to consume it regardless of content.
Although I am personally vegan, the real truth is the salt and the beef, for example, can be had, just not gorged on. Actually, 10% of your diet can be meat without increasing your odds of wonderful things like heart disease.
Then again, as much as the 80-90% average American meat diet is horribly imbalanced, what is truly worse are trans-fats and high fructose corn syrups.

btw...I have a jar of that selfsame salt, but I use it sparingly. Turns out, most things are naturally salty once you give your palate a chance to grow accustomed to life without additives.

Posted on Jun 4, 2012 3:46:47 PM PDT
Brent Butler says:
I agree, Peter, I don't add much salt to food either ... most of the time none at all.

I would dispute Charles' contention in his review that there is no evidence humans are designed to eat meat though. The design of teeth back to the molars pretty much lets the air out of that theory. LOL

We didn't eliminate meat in our household when we started to lose weight last year, but we did cut back on it quite a bit. A lot of beef was replaced with chicken and fish, and our beef portions are reduced when we do eat it.

And to remark on your first sentence, I have been known to comment that if I were to completely eliminate something I greatly enjoy from my life so that I became miserable, what's the use in being miserable just so I could potentially be miserable for many years longer. LOL

That's a bit more of a joke than a serious commitment, since we DID greatly reduce our beef intake, along with many other foods that just aren't consistent with getting to and maintaining a healthy weight. I often think wistfully of the donuts I will no longer consume. I just pick up the Krispy Kreme box, look at that 200 calories per donut on the nutrition label, and put it right back down. ;-) Meat is FAR from the only culprit.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2012 3:51:01 PM PDT
we die for our fries
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