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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 12:48:00 AM PDT
I received one book for free and was asked to review it before it was published, and I made this clear in the review. I have some product reviews on the uk site, now I realise these will be separate, thank you.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 1:06:50 AM PDT
My friend found my reviews because he heard an author being interviewd on coast f.m. radio in Alicante talking about her book 'Violet Jelly', a childrens book. (I had bought the spanish translation of it in Valencia for my granddaughter.) He looked for it on amazon and there were only four reviews, one being mine. He recognised my web address and found my other reviews, then e mailed me to say he had made some 'helpfull' votes. He didn't even know I had written any reviews before that, but I realise he was just being friendly and probably not impartial.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 1:18:32 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 17, 2012 1:21:05 AM PDT
cathyr says:
So did your question get answered in the end?

- Amazon UK and Amazon US are separate entities. If you publish a review under your UK profile, it is not recognised in your US profile. (Similarly helpful (and not) votes).
- Votes appear pretty much immediately. If you aren't seeing them, try refreshing.
- Since helpful and unhelpful clicks are anonymous, there is no real way of telling who cast them.
- There is no real reason why a friend cannot mark your votes as helpful, but after any one user votes x-times on your reviews, they become a "fan" and their votes stop counting. What that number is is much discussed (best guess is 5 but it seems to re-start after a period). It may affect your overall ranking. Once you reach top-10,000 you will see how many fans you have.

Edit to Add: And I noticed you used the reply to link *grin*. Makes the thread easier to follow. I have a list somewhere of other things that can be helpful in discussions if you need more help.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 1:29:00 AM PDT
yes thank you, all questiones answered for the moment, but I'm sure there will be more later, you have been helpful

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 6:53:48 AM PDT
"does this mean that the same person, someone I know or not, can't vote for more than one of my reviews"

No, but if somebody votes for a bunch of your reviews, Amazon's software may think that in this case, the person is voting for you rather than your reviews.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 6:57:48 AM PDT
There's a formula, not a number, and it likely depends on the pattern of voting. If somebody votes for a bunch of your reviews all in one go, it's not the same as a normal customer voting for reviews by different people. Think how normal customers behave and you'll have some idea of what Amazon try to look for.

None of us know what the formula is, but from observation over a long time, it's obvious that there is one.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 6:59:54 AM PDT
Does being a novive mean that you have to insult them? We were all novices once. I received a lot of help and advice in my novice days, and I never forget that I was once a novice.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 2, 2012 5:51:24 PM PDT
D. Alexander says:
Peter, I would be surprised if no-rating reviews negatively impact rank. Amazon's problem is finding people to review obscure products that don't generate a lot of traffic or voting activity. It would seem counterproductive to discourage that. I personally haven't noticed a drop in rank even when I've uploaded five or more reviews in a day. Of 120 reviews, 40 of mine have no votes at all. 20 more have a single vote, and the next 20 have only two or three.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 2:29:56 AM PDT
A lot of things impact rank, but I can assure you that I've reviewed more than my share of obscure books (my latest being a book about Irish dog racing, which is not exactly a best-seller) and they haven't damaged my ranking. It is the popular but controversial products that do the damage - left vs right in politics, creationism vs evolution in natural history, etc., etc. Writers of such reviews don't care about their rank.

I wouldn't expect you to drop in rank by posting reviews in small batches. I often do that. Howwever, some people have noticed a penalty for being prolific. Figuring out how the rankings work isn't an exact science (it was under the previous system, but not this one) so while observations of individual reviews are factored in, my observations are based on accumulated knowledge learned from reviewers with a variety of experiences.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 6:21:47 AM PDT
But how do you know what positive or negative votes you get? I don't see anything that reveals that. Do only top reviewers get to see their votes?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 7:15:41 AM PDT
click on your name and look at your reviews, for example, your third review down is 0 out of 1, which means you have an unhelpful. If a review has, for exampe, 3/5, it means you have three helpful and two unhelpful

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 7:20:02 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 3, 2012 7:21:03 AM PDT
Suzinne,

Most of us use software called ARAT--Amazon Reviewer Analysis Tool--to see which reviews get positive or negative votes, very helpful when you have hundreds or even thousands of reviews. I can send you a link to it, if you are interested. It is a free program but donations are always welcome.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 8:05:23 AM PDT
Hal Jordan says:
Suzanne,

On your profile page it shows that you have received 380 total votes of which 265 (70%) were helpful. The helpful/total votes are shown on each individual review.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 4:03:38 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 3, 2012 6:01:16 PM PDT
janette,

Jason is not a top reviewer and he is a 2-bit. It is expected for him to be rude because he doesn't konw and can't do any better. Well respected top reviewers such as Mr. Harris are 38-bit and they are always polite, helpful and informative.

Listen to Mr. Harris and other top reviewers and don't let Jason's boorish rudeness discourage you from expressing yourself through reviewing. You could soon join us as a top reviewer.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 7:53:51 PM PDT
A troll by any other name...and we've known this troll by this particular name for a long, long time.

http://www.amazon.com/forum/top%20reviewers/ref=cm_cd_search_res_rm?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2Z5LRXMSUDQH2&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx6Z5PQ17UDLHV

http://www.amazon.com/forum/top%20reviewers/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2Z5LRXMSUDQH2&cdMsgNo=1&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx33OY7LB05DB3L&cdMsgID=Mx18JZRJHULT51A

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 9:25:33 PM PDT
She's funny not rude and you don't get her humor.

Posted on Jul 4, 2012 10:48:52 AM PDT
Chandler says:
Jason,
I find it quite hysterical to know that last year Eartha was going after Harriett because she was number one, and using the EXACT same words "she" uses in her exact same "act" now that there is a new reviewer ranking. Thanks for the post!

It sheds a heck of a lot of light on what's behind the posts. She was watching her rank obsessively by her own admission and then they introduced the new reviewer ranking and she said she then had no rank.

And she apparently went crazy....

Same exact act and EXACT posts for the last TWO years, talking about Loofah (sponge) vs. arugula (lettuce) being her next review and yada yada yada. Wow, that's all she can think up in TWO YEARS of time to think about what to post here on her rank obsession? A review comparing sponges to lettuce. That's "special" comedy. Why retire that line?

She says in that post that she was watching her rank daily and she was moving up quickly in rank and then they cut off the classic ranking and she sank. It's like a funny Batman villain whereby the cray-cray one becomes obsessed with top reviewers after they almost made it but an act they consider heinous befell them (dropping the classic ranking and creating the new ranking) and then all they can do is obsess.

Now the truth is out. I've personally never had a conversation with Eartha so rank is the obsession and I just signify her hatred of it--as we now see via her doing the exact same routine she did in the exact same words to the former number one reviewer TWO years ago.

At least she added the new act where she falsely believes that ALL cheese has little to no lactose for me. Likely from a dairy council Wikipedia post...she certainly has never made her own cheese. Stick to politics...you know nothing about comedy routines (get a new one) or cheese.

It's kind of weird that every post she writes sounds exactly the same. I think it is a call to attention to the reviews because she brings up her latest reviews obsessively in the posts from two years ago too then tries to write the same exact jokes...saying she is working on a loofah vs. arugula review and weird things like that...same punch lines for two years makes me think she heard them somewhere, thought they were funny, then when she posts a review she wants to get attention to she comes to an active thread, get's involved, then begins talking about her reviews again and with the same joke she has been using for 2 years, to make people go look. I am not sure what the motivation there is or why she was obsessed with Harriett as well...

But I think she killed off her comedy-writing-sidekick 2 years ago. Now she "gots nothin'"

Well, nothing except the old loofah vs. arugula tired comedy act that should have been put to bed 2 years ago when she first tried it out on the same audience who quickly forgot it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 4, 2012 2:25:37 PM PDT
Peter says:
maybe she uses the loofa to rinse her arugula?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 17, 2014 6:30:45 AM PDT
Max Baklayan says:
Hello Timothy, could you please send me this ARAT tool. I am not big on writing reviews on Amazon, but I am doing a research on review ranking and such a tool might be a big help. I would love to donate for that.

Best regards,
Max B.
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