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Initial post: Apr 8, 2012 3:45:42 PM PDT
Dean Warren says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 8, 2012 3:57:59 PM PDT
Dick Johnson says:
Dean, please read the second post in the thread linked to below. The links in it will be helpful to you.

http://www.amazon.com/forum/top%20reviewers/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2Z5LRXMSUDQH2&cdThread=Tx1CKCLQ972J3PB

Posted on Apr 8, 2012 4:09:44 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 8, 2012 4:14:52 PM PDT
Brent Butler says:
The spirit of Bulwer-Lytton has possesed yet another soul. Irrelevant, out of the blue details which spoil the flow of the narrative don't add as much color as you think they do, Dean.

PS. Sadly, the short summary given makes the book sound a lot like the Nazi propaganda sci-fi of the 30s. Finally, what is the result of 2090 - (minus) 2012, do you think?

Posted on Apr 8, 2012 4:32:47 PM PDT
Chandler says:
Is it because I just had a glass of wine, or does that not make sense to anyone else either?

i.e. Why would the Muslims and Chinese be so "hungry"?

Who has time for sex amongst all the fighting and battles?

Why does the marine go to EUROPE to repel the "hords" of Muslims and Chinese?

What are "hords"? Is this the same thing as "hordes" or are they hos with swords and this is an urban dictionary kinda book?

It could just be the wine talking, but I'm not feeling it.

Posted on Apr 8, 2012 4:41:17 PM PDT
Brent Butler says:
AC, its "Chnese", not "Chinese". Possibly that's an alien race which has established a colony in Lichtenstein.

Posted on Apr 8, 2012 5:37:54 PM PDT
Chandler says:
Ohhhh my dang speed reading missed that part.

My bad.

Thanks B. I was thinking Asian when I shoulda been thinkin' alien.

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Posted on Apr 9, 2012 6:32:48 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 9, 2012 6:42:18 AM PDT
Dick Johnson says:
Dean, continuing to "promote" or "market" your book on this forum (or any Amazon forum other than Meet Our Authors) will disappoint you. Amazon set up that other forum for that purpose. It is for authors to look for buyers and reviewers.

Don't be surprised if this thread disappears. Sometimes Amazon moves it to that other forum, sometimes they just delete it altogether. You should take a hint from the votes your original post has received. Going against Amazons rules is not a good way to "market" your book. It is a good way to turn away buyers, though.

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Initial post: May 16, 2011 4:46:41 PM PDT
Amazon Community Team says:
(AMAZON OFFICIAL)
Amazon recently created a new community for authors. The `Meet Our Authors' community is designed to give authors a space to engage with one another and promote their latest and greatest works.

With the advent of the new community, we will no longer allow self promotional posts in other communities. Starting on Monday, May 16th, all "shameless self promotion" activity will be limited to the `Meet Our Authors' community. Promotional threads outside of these forums will be removed.

We invite authors and interested readers to come join the discussion at:

http://www.amazon.com/forum/meet%20our%20authors

We look forward to seeing you!

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Posted on Apr 9, 2012 7:54:24 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 9, 2012 7:57:19 AM PDT
Brent Butler says:
"I'm sorry, I don't understand the "irrelevant, out of the blue details" comment. Are you referring to the book, having sampled it?"

Yes. You display that amateurish writing "technique" very often in at least the portion of the book displayed in your 10 chapter sample. You put your book for display here (and in violation of Amazon policy, as has been explained) so don't be surprised to get a critique. Your writing throughout the sample is uniformly poor. Plot elements are poorly thought out as functions of logic. Your very first plot device where your hero gets into the marines by knowing about a businessman commiting a heinous crime (that somehow no one else knows about and is using to their benefit) is ridiculous. The action sequence in which he is arrested is "cover your eyes bad". The willingness of the supposedly street savvy uncle, who lives in the neighborhood and presumably must continue to do so, to alienate a dangerous gang makes zero sense.

Now, in the course of writing 100 plus chapters I hope you learned more about writing and improved as you went. However, the first 10 chapters are SO bad that there is no way I would waste my time to find out. If you're a better writer now, you'd better make those first 10 chapters less of an embarassment.

The reason I compared your overall plot to 1930's Nazi propaganda Sci Fi was clear. Your plot description sounds exactly like 1930s Nazi propaganda Sci Fi ... in other words fascist and racist ... the glorious master race conquers the mindless impure hordes. I think it is sad that you are in your 80s and are still so clueless.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 9, 2012 9:11:57 AM PDT
"I fall into the category of wanting exposure for marketing reasons."

That much is obvious. What my colleagues were attempting to ram through your steel-thick skull, Mr. Warren, is that such promotional posts violate Amazon guidelines here.

Re-posting the "review" from Midwest Book Review is a slap in the face, because everyone knows that MBR is a shill mill, just like Harriet Klausner. That MBR has reviewed multiple titles of yours is no less impressive. The rest of your reviews seem to come from friends and neighbors in Orlando.

Posted on Apr 9, 2012 9:51:22 AM PDT
Brent Butler says:
Not to mention Jason, that his reviewer "Dave Foster":
* has written three reviews, two are of Mr. Warren's titles
* is also listed in the promo as "proprietor of Top Tenn Press". A Google of Top Tenn Press suggested that it has published exactly one book. Dave Foster is the author of that book. LOL I cannot express how nauseated I get when authors make these pathetic and unethical attempts to overstate either their own credentials, or the credentials of their "supporters".

Also, "Forward Magazine" is listed under one of his books as including that book as an award finalist. I can find no "Forward Magazine". There IS a "ForeWord" magazine, which openly describes on their web site the terms under which they will sell an author a "digital review" for $129.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 9, 2012 9:54:40 AM PDT
Nice work, grasshopper.

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Posted on Apr 10, 2012 7:40:14 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 10, 2012 8:12:23 AM PDT
Brent Butler says:
Sour apples???

Dean, if you're going to bring poorly written fiction to a Top Reviewer's Forum, and compound the situation with both disingenuous promotion on your product page and prohibitted promotion in our Forum, not to mention the other issues, you need to bring your Big Boy Pants.

We are not your friends, and it is not our job stroke your ego, give you "feel good validation", or let our jaws hang and be impressed with your highly questionable "reviews". In fact, if anyone on Amazon is good at recognizing trumped up reviews, it's us.

Now, go back into your little fantasy world where you are a successful author despite failing for at least the last eleven years to find any readers whatsoever for your trash. We're sour apples, your stuff is great, the world is so, so unfair to you.

Posted on Apr 10, 2012 8:12:09 AM PDT
How is it that no one has remarked on price of that pile of sludge. 9.99? Really?

Posted on Apr 10, 2012 8:16:12 AM PDT
Brent Butler says:
I think he's wise to price it at $9.99, Ms. M. That way when you don't sell any books you can blame it on the price, and maintain the delusion.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 10, 2012 8:37:48 AM PDT
That is a good point. And, I suppose it is true to say that I wouldn't read it for free. So, there's that.

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Posted on Apr 10, 2012 1:21:29 PM PDT
Brent Butler says:
Is there an emoticon for sticking one's finger down one's throat?
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