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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 13, 2013 11:31:41 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 13, 2013 11:32:58 AM PST
got mayo?™ says:
Yes a 4100 and A10 Quad are close, but i'd recon the 4100 has higher OC potential not dealing with the heat of the GPU.

Not to mention the motherboard supports better CPU's down the road, where judging by Fusion, the mobo's are dead with each iteration. Unless of course Trinity mobo's will get carrird on somehow.

Really, i don't have anything against the use of integrated option like Trinity. Like i've said, i'd looked into these for personal consumption. I'll actually be building one with likely their next revision for my daughter so she can do some of gaming on it. I just fixed an old laptop, so i bought me some time from that project...hehe

I just wanted you to know what the limits were for gaming long term, expansion/upgradeability, etc...and list other budget options out there, since they are typically important considerations around building a gaming PC.

Good luck, and let us know how it games. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 13, 2013 8:52:46 AM PST
John Galt says:
Now it is obvious you know more about this than me. Here are my thoughts on it. I still am partial to the A10 because I like the idea that it requires one less part to worry about (the gpu). The best reference I like to use is Tom's Warehouse gaming cpu hierarchy. They have one for the gpu as well.

Now, I've basing this on the belief that these guys know what they are talking about. For gaming purposes, the FX-4100 and the A10 are very close on the table. In fact, the A10 is one tier higher. When I look at the built in graphics for intel, the HD 4000 is the highest level. The A10's graphics (7660D) is 4 tiers higher.

Now I know your builds have more options for future improvement, but I like to keep it simple. If I am serious about continuing in gaming, I don't see myself wanting to buy a new cpu to be compatible with my motherboard. I'm going to buy a new cpu and motherboard. That is just me. You have definitelty proven your point that there are cheaper and better future proof than my option.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 13, 2013 5:42:45 AM PST
Agreed. I save myself about $1000 per build over buying the same PC pre-built.

Posted on Feb 13, 2013 5:29:47 AM PST
Building a PC just takes a few hours, and some dedication. But at the end of the day you'd be saving 300+ dollars building your own. And if you are doing a expensive rig setup, you can probably save yourself 500-900 bucks doing it yourself.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 13, 2013 5:11:39 AM PST
It's a 27" Samsung that I bought about a year ago.
I never use the 3D features on it since that usually makes me want to barf after about 10 min, but I have to say that the way this thing displays graphics.....it just makes PS3 and Xbox look like Paper Mario.

Posted on Feb 13, 2013 5:08:49 AM PST
Building your own PC is for noobs. Real gamers buy Alienware.
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<sarcasm>...but I was lazy and bought one. Pretty pleased, especially considering given my location and occupation building wasn't an option, neither was a desktop.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 13, 2013 5:04:45 AM PST
jtshiel says:
Yeah, I hate this cliche but if I can do it anybody can!

Posted on Feb 13, 2013 4:31:51 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 13, 2013 4:35:14 AM PST
got mayo?™ says:
John Galt, this is a nice budget Barebones for $382 out of pocket ($312 After Rebate)...to get someone started at least.

The VC is a dog, but you can do some 720p low setting gaming until those rebates come back and you can grab a better video card.
http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7640299&Sku=B69-0947

AMD FX4100 Quad Core 3.6Ghz
AMD FX 4100 4-Core Processor, 3.6 4 Socket AM3+ FD4100WMGUSBX

8GB ADATA 1333Mhz
ADATA Premier Series 8 GB Kit (4 x 2) DDR3 1333Mhz CL9 Dual Channel with HS Desktop Memory with Heaksink AD3U1333C4G9-DRH

MSI 970A-G46
Thermaltake VN40006W2N White Commander MS-I Snow Edition USB3.0 Mid Tower / Computer Case

KINGWIN 650W
KingWin Maximum 650 Watts ATX Power Supply - ABT-650MM

THERMALTAKE MS-I SNOW EDT USB3.0 CASE
Thermaltake VN40006W2N White Commander MS-I Snow Edition USB3.0 Mid Tower / Computer Case

GALAXY GEFORE GT610 GC 1GB
Galaxy GeForce GT 610 GC 1 GB DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 DVI/HDMI/VGA Graphics Card, 61TGS4HX2LTX Graphics Cards 61TGS4HX2LTX

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 5:53:25 PM PST
Yeah, dunno I just suck at pretty much anything mechanical related. You could tell me my brakes arent working because the unicorn in my radiator is pissed and I'd probably believe you....

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 5:32:21 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 12, 2013 5:36:08 PM PST
got mayo?™ says:
I think you are getting freaked out over the idea of the wiring. We can solve much of that by using a modular power supply and choosing a case with all the fans built in that you need.

The rest is elbow grease, legos and a few hours of quiet and patience.

It would serve you well to watch the neweggtv how to build a computer videos on their site and YouTube...to build up your courage. I too never thought I could, watched those and realized that was something I Def could do. Lol

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 5:30:10 PM PST
Yeah the problem is not so sure if I'd be able to build something like that myself lol.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 5:20:29 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 12, 2013 5:30:44 PM PST
got mayo?™ says:
That is a DIY $900 computer at best. Only because. Corsair Obsidian case would ramp up cost.

For $1500 you need to be at no less than an watercooled i7 and gtx 680.

That hdd is 32mb cache , 64 mb is more desirable. Cooler Master 212 is a great cooler, but something more exotic should come in a $1500 build than. $30 cooler, on an i5. Nothing wrong with the parts, its just the asking price. Looks hella nice build though.!

Posted on Feb 12, 2013 5:03:53 PM PST
John McClane says:
"Sapphire's take on AMD's Radeon HD 7770 ($100)"

The graphics card is $114.99 + $4.99 shipping on newegg.

Posted on Feb 12, 2013 4:59:51 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 12, 2013 5:00:02 PM PST
Ok, just a quick look, this is kind of what I REALLY want....

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadode.asp?id=676208&price=%241%2C499

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 4:57:35 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 12, 2013 4:58:13 PM PST
got mayo?™ says:
Dude we walked Jtshiel through this and others with no casualties...lol, you are certainly capable. We'll help what we can.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 4:55:09 PM PST
How big is the monitor? Because if you're running on a single 120hz 20" monitor, my 6870 can run Crysis 3 on high.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 4:53:35 PM PST
Yeah the issue I'm having is I REALLY want to order one from Digital Storm. Their pre-builts seem to be a LOT higher quality. Unfortunately that also sort of shows in the price. My plan is to save up about $1000 and see what I can find whenever they do a sale. Still though, I dont want to end up paying $1000 for the same PC I could build for 500-600 bucks.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 4:49:38 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 12, 2013 4:55:45 PM PST
got mayo?™ says:
http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7640299&Sku=B69-0947
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There is you starting system. $382 w/ $70 coming back in rebates.

Needs a hdd you can get for $60. When the $70 comes back you can put it towards an Hd6770 .

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 3:20:03 PM PST
John Galt says:
If you can get the components for that price, I totally agree with you.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 2:53:28 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 12, 2013 3:05:03 PM PST
got mayo?™ says:
If cost is really the issue for the starter build, and you can flex a 'little'...still a desirable solution can be met .

I built my FX4100, Asus M5A97 Evo, HIS HD7770, 7200rpm 500GB Seagate , 8GB DDR3 1600 , Antec 300/ Antec VP450 for around $450 without OS....thanks to microcenter.

Do you have a Microcenter within driving distance? Check the store locator on their site. Their circular just came in the mail and they have solid CPU/mobo combo deals. They are offering $5 and $10 motherboard with the purchase of an i3 3225($119)-which is a great processor with built in graphics.
Free Micro Motherboards with FX processors too.

You don't need 8GB, 4GB is still prevalent in gaming (specially on lower end).
You can do a 7750 and not a 7770.
You can get a micro board for $50 that still accomodates 16GB of RAM.
All you need is small power supply and a no frills case.
You can do a Quad Core Althon for $65, yet that motherboard can support Piledriver and Steamroller CPU upgrades down the road.

All while performing better than the A10. There are lots of directions you can go.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 2:47:39 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 12, 2013 2:50:29 PM PST
got mayo?™ says:
If you are basing it on Intel Integrated graphics experience, you will certainly get better gaming results from an A10.

I just don't see say ...for example...12 fps in Crysis with HD4000 vs 23 fps with an A10 as something i'd want to build for, with no upside beyond that.

Consoles do better without the hassle there. That said my nephew played MW3 for a well over a year on an A8 Laptop...so there are games that hardware runs well at decent settings, but as the new gen transitions i'd imagine games being much more demanding for lower end hardware like that. Now if you were running a Phenom Quad with a 6670, at least you'd have the benefit of moving up the GPU ladder when the 6670 doesn't cut it anymore. Sky is the limit for your upgrade path.

Posted on Feb 12, 2013 2:46:49 PM PST
John Galt says:
I guess what I am saying is that I am still tempted with this build as a starter gamer pc. 2 or 3 years later, I would end up paying 2 or 3 times more on a computer, but at least by then I know for sure this is what I want. It would only cost me up to $400-$450 upfront. Paying $700 upfront is a harder pill to swallow if you are uncertain about pc gaming.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 2:40:13 PM PST
John Galt says:
I'm sure you are right about issues with crossfire.

I guess it all depends on the level of quality of experience. I played Crisis with a i5-3570k (HD4000, I believe) with no descrete gpu. Sure the graphics were on the lowest settings and it was no even 720p; but it worked without any problems.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 2:33:23 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 12, 2013 2:37:57 PM PST
got mayo?™ says:
I would look into that Hybrid crossfire more. I remember with Llano A series that driver support for it from games was hit and miss with it, and the Hybrid Xfire wasn't much of an upgrade as it is in a standard crossfire in a traditional system.

I too considered such setup. Its cheap, and tempting. Ultimately it turns into a great multimedia PC that is rather limited as a gaming oriented PC down the road. Its 2013 and 4K is around the corner, you really want a solid 1080p machine today that can take you 4 years and be ale to upgrade significantly (ie GPU, CPU if needed)

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 12, 2013 2:24:37 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 12, 2013 2:30:35 PM PST
John Galt says:
My combo for the three is $183.78- and there isn't much for upgrading outside of adding an HD 6670 crossfire
edit- I added the ram cost by mistake- A10 covers chip/gpu
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