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Should video games go back to the cartridge format?


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Initial post: Nov 22, 2012 1:25:00 PM PST
Someone was telling me that with today's technologies, cartridges would be better because.....

1. Less lag times
2. Less prone to piracy
3. Less moving parts/less breakage
4. Less costly
5. Still could be in HD
6. A game like "Skyrim" could fit in a smaller cartridge than old SNES cartridge

Is this true....or not?

Posted on Nov 22, 2012 1:26:06 PM PST
El Tron says:
I think cartridges cost more than DVD ROM.

Posted on Nov 22, 2012 1:27:49 PM PST
Donkey Punch says:
Tron is right. I would like a cartridge but then games would be $75 to $100 and no one wants that.

Posted on Nov 22, 2012 1:28:23 PM PST
That would be great. Then, my kids would understand what I mean when I talk about the tradition of blowing on the cartridge before you play a game.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 1:30:03 PM PST
Is the 3DS cartridge-based. Those games are not very costly.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 1:39:34 PM PST
El Tron says:
They're also much smaller, both physically and in the amount of data they contain.

Posted on Nov 22, 2012 1:40:24 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 22, 2012 1:54:00 PM PST
The only drawback I think about cartridges is the save file system, unless you can also save to say an SD card/HDD or something to back up your save. I always forget that when I have a DS game and say I want to get rid of it and maybe play it again later I won't have all my saves on a memory card or HDD which I think it a bit better...

In another respect I find it cool when I get a used game off somewhere and pop it in you get to see what the last person who played the game was and where they stopped with it, what level, etc...

Posted on Nov 22, 2012 1:44:07 PM PST
Jacob Dyer says:
handhelds use flash memory cards. works well.

Posted on Nov 22, 2012 2:01:17 PM PST
Marauder JJ says:
I can see it happening in the future. Hell, they make 64GB SD cards.. who knows.

Posted on Nov 22, 2012 2:04:30 PM PST
Joshua C says:
It won't happen, because it's not less costly to produce a cartridge than a disc. It's also not less prone to piracy or breakage.

Posted on Nov 22, 2012 2:06:03 PM PST
WesCyde says:
Same Price and Better Quality= I am Sold...Hopefully like said ^^^In the future

Posted on Nov 22, 2012 2:18:35 PM PST
Joshua C says:
My laptop kept going crazy when I was trying to type :(

Anyway...

1. Less lag times - Valid, you can produce a cartridge game with less lag time than a disc based one
2. Less prone to piracy - Really? Look at the DS. You can pirate any game released for it, all onto a $10 dollar cart. You can update it through an SD card. It's only a matter of time before the same thing happens with the 3DS and the Vita, if it hasn't already.
3. Less moving parts/less breakage - I'd like to point you to the "blow in the cartridge" of previous generations. Dirty connections prevent a game from working properly, and that dirt and dust can get in the system and cause problems with other games.
4. Less costly - I'd like to see a breakdown of how it would be less costly for a company to produce cartridge-based games than discs. A disc you just write and stamp a label. Cartridges require a housing and a circuit board, and thats without any special chip for region lockout or anti-piracy.
5. Still could be in HD - Valid
6. A game like "Skyrim" could fit in a smaller cartridge than old SNES cartridge - Also valid.

I don't mean this to sound like I'm personally attacking anyone, mind you, just addressing the individual points made. Considering that the cost of a game for the 3DS or Vita is what... 40 bucks at launch, retail? I think if home consoles went back to that format, we'd see a significant price jump... Especially taking into account that there were games back in the cartridge days which cost more than what we pay now, not even accounting for inflation.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:21:11 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 22, 2012 2:21:39 PM PST
But maybe it would cost more in the beginning, but think about things like RROD, YLOD, etc, which are usually disk related...maybe switching to a more solid hardware via a cartridge system would fix this and be cheaper, at least for the hardware in the long run...

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:24:28 PM PST
Joshua C says:
The RROD and YLOD weren't disc related, however. RROD was because the circuit board for the system itself was faulty, similar issue with the YLOD. The last disc related issue I recall, being widespread, was the eye in the PS2 shifting,

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:26:24 PM PST
In what way are the RRoD and YLoD related to the media the console uses?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:27:04 PM PST
Oh that's right the deal with the RROD was actually mostly an issue with them not using the right glue or something that cause the parts to shift or something right? So moreover probably due to faulty engineering and/or cheap parts, labor...not disk related.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:27:32 PM PST
I'm marching right back to that Gamestop store and telling that employee they don't know what they're talking about!!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:28:30 PM PST
Well, I guess I was thinking of more like the SNES/Genesis/N64 era as those systems seem more well made, but I guess making that correlation is a pretty moot point on my end...

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:28:54 PM PST
Joshua C says:
Make sure you throw a drink in their face, too. Really drive the point home!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:29:10 PM PST
Wow, I didn't know that cartridges were that advanced these days.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:30:59 PM PST
Joshua C says:
I'll give you that the consoles are solid. I still have my original systems, and they work, though they can be problematic. The thing is, they weren't solid because of the media they used, they were just well made. My PS1, Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, Sega CD, and original Xbox never had any problems either, and all of them are disc based. The first console I ever had issues with was the PS2, due to poor design on the original models.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:31:30 PM PST
Also, they're certainly no less prone to piracy than a disc that's a proprietary format. Have you heard how bad R4 cart piracy got in Japan?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:35:50 PM PST
Yeah, I totally agree with you there. It's amazing the 1st generation CD rom consoles are lasting longer than NEW current generation consoles...I guess it all goes back to the frugal practices of new world of gaming manufacturing...

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2012 2:41:42 PM PST
Jacob Dyer says:
We'll never see those kinds of cartridges again now that we have flash memory.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 24, 2013 4:51:53 PM PST
BulletFoss says:
Because CD's are really good for saving your games onto aren't they.... :/

Of course it would have an on-board hard drive you numpty!
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