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Initial post: Nov 11, 2012 5:51:30 PM PST
Mojie55 says:
A few questions I would like answered if anyone can fill me in.

Why did the Engineers leave maps on Earth, through the various cave drawings and such, for 35000 years to a planet that turned out to be a military installation?

Why was it that if an Engineer drinks the black goo they create life, but when a human drinks it they become a zombie? Dr Shaw confirmed we had the exact same DNA as the Engineers, not similar, the exact same.

Why did Dr Shaw give birth to a facehugger?

Is the Alien we saw at the end the Queen from Aliens? Why did it have a weird mouth?

Why were the Engineers going to destroy Earth?

Why was the medical machine, one of only a dozen and one of the most expensive machines in the world, only work for men?

Why did the Engineer immediately attack the humans upon awakening? He was asleep for 2000 years, so last known contact with us we were on horseback and using bow an arrow. He wasn't a little bit curious about how we managed space travel? How did he know we did not have a fleet of space cruisers orbiting the planet?

Why did we not have a fleet of space cruisers orbiting the planet? Or at least one? When Chris Columbus found America he had soldiers with him and multiple ships. Would it not have been prudent to have some kind of back up on the off chance you do find the space traveling "Gods" and they are happy to see you?

Posted on Nov 11, 2012 6:31:09 PM PST
SuperHiro says:
Answer to all: Because the writer for this movie was high.

Posted on Nov 11, 2012 6:38:12 PM PST
Blake says:
They're a ton of theories for some of your questions, but nobody knows except Ridley Scott.

Pretty much we have to wait for the sequel.

Posted on Nov 11, 2012 6:38:25 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 11, 2012 6:39:56 PM PST
WizardPlus says:
"Why did the Engineer immediately attack the humans upon awakening?"

He was is Hyper Sleep, he has no idea how long he was asleep for. It was most likely just a moment to him. For example, when Dr. Shaw is awoken, she asks how long she was asleep for?. So the Engineer was just finishing his mission. Wake up/deliver goo to earth. They have been checking in on us over the years. They must have seen how horribly we destroyed the planet and each other and decided we had turned into an abomination of a society. Which would explain the hostility upon site of humans. Plus, have you ever had somebody wake you up and be all up in your face, I'd be P.O.'d too! God's wrath is strong, don't go against god, especially when he makes you in his image.

Posted on Nov 11, 2012 6:45:13 PM PST
StriderNeo15 says:
"Why was it that if an Engineer drinks the black goo they create life, but when a human drinks it they become a zombie? Dr Shaw confirmed we had the exact same DNA as the Engineers, not similar, the exact same."

When did this happen? It seemed like the black goo killed them both.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 11, 2012 7:08:34 PM PST
J. Pardee says:
"Why did the Engineers leave maps on Earth, through the various cave drawings and such, for 35000 years to a planet that turned out to be a military installation?"

- The planet wasn't necessarily just a military installation, that's just all we ever saw.

"Why was it that if an Engineer drinks the black goo they create life, but when a human drinks it they become a zombie? Dr Shaw confirmed we had the exact same DNA as the Engineers, not similar, the exact same."

-We are from the same DNA but for having the technology to create new life it was probably genetically altered to be different from their own. It also never states that the black goo at the beginning of the movie was the same that the humans encountered.

"Why did Dr Shaw give birth to a facehugger?"

-Holloway had drank the goo which had started to alter his genetic DNA. When he inseminated Shaw it morphed into the face hugger.

"Is the Alien we saw at the end the Queen from Aliens? Why did it have a weird mouth?"

-No, the alien at the end was not the same since they weren't even on the same planet.

"Why were the Engineers going to destroy Earth?"

-There hasn't been an exact answer to this yet but a lot of speculation has been going on around it. One of them being that the last time an engineer was on Earth was 2,000 years ago and that Jesus Christ was an engineer. We crucified the engineer which showed that humanity was lost so they were going to destroy us.

"Why was the medical machine, one of only a dozen and one of the most expensive machines in the world, only work for men?"

-It could have been something just as simple that the machine wasn't configured to preform a cesarean.

"Why did the Engineer immediately attack the humans upon awakening? He was asleep for 2000 years, so last known contact with us we were on horseback and using bow an arrow. He wasn't a little bit curious about how we managed space travel? How did he know we did not have a fleet of space cruisers orbiting the planet?"

-The engineer had been asleep for 2,000 years so he was probably set on his current goal.

"Why did we not have a fleet of space cruisers orbiting the planet? Or at least one? When Chris Columbus found America he had soldiers with him and multiple ships. Would it not have been prudent to have some kind of back up on the off chance you do find the space traveling "Gods" and they are happy to see you?"

The trip was probably nothing more than a scientific expedition not realizing what it could have entailed. The trip was also funded by a private company and was not a military expedition.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 11, 2012 9:58:32 PM PST
Mojie55 says:
The Engineer at the start drunk the goo, it broke his DNA down in the water and then start rebuilding new DNA. The humans just turn to monsters.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 11, 2012 10:01:00 PM PST
Mojie55 says:
Ok, so say for the Engineer it only seemed like 5 minutes. He wakes up and we are on his planet, speaking his language with an android. When he fell asleep we were fighting with sticks and stones.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 11, 2012 10:21:17 PM PST
Dukeshire says:
I had a hunch that you already asked these questions months ago and we answered them.....Confused as to why you are asking nearly the same questions again.

http://www.amazon.com/forum/video%20games/ref=cm_cd_search_res_ti?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1T1DM93QU4XL1&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx30O97QNHDBKG8#Mx1TD6RSZIP7PO1

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 11, 2012 10:26:00 PM PST
Harmicky says:
Weird. I wonder what this dude's deal is. Obsessed with Prometheus?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 11, 2012 10:29:47 PM PST
Mojie55 says:
Ok fairly good answers

"The planet wasn't necessarily just a military installation, that's just all we ever saw."

-Where are the other engineers then? It was clear this was not their homeworld as David and Dr Shaw left to go there and they were terraforming it. It was not a natural Oxygen planet. So we leave co ordinates to go there?

"We are from the same DNA but for having the technology to create new life it was probably genetically altered to be different from their own. It also never states that the black goo at the beginning of the movie was the same that the humans encountered."

-Ok there could have been two different blacks goos. They could shown that in the movie by running "tests"

"Holloway had drank the goo which had started to alter his genetic DNA. When he inseminated Shaw it morphed into the face hugger."

-So the same stuff that tore him to pieces from the inside was able to fix Dr Shaw's womb and make a whole new species? That's a stretch.

"-There hasn't been an exact answer to this yet but a lot of speculation has been going on around it. One of them being that the last time an engineer was on Earth was 2,000 years ago and that Jesus Christ was an engineer. We crucified the engineer which showed that humanity was lost so they were going to destroy us."

-As you say, speculation. That was never alluded to in the movie. They should have explained something about why they were wiping us out.

"The engineer had been asleep for 2,000 years so he was probably set on his current goal."

-Let say you had to kill a bunch of rodents. You wake up and the rodents are in your home attempting to communicate. Your not a little bit curious as to what is going on?

"The trip was probably nothing more than a scientific expedition not realizing what it could have entailed. The trip was also funded by a private company and was not a military expedition."

Cmon, even scientific expeditions have military escorts. Do you think if we found something on Mars that should not be there and could get to it, would we send soldiers with the scientists?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 11, 2012 10:38:10 PM PST
Mojie55 says:
Just rewatched it tonight to see if I missed something but only ended up with more questions. There are just so many holes in the story.

I also watched The Amazing Spiderman this weekend. Its far fetched, but you know what is happening. They fill in the story.

A lot of people think Prometheus is a master piece. So I am asking questions to see if I missed something. So far I don't think I have.

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 4:16:37 AM PST
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Terrible movie has a terrible story. Also be sure to stick around to find out why eating glass is bad for you at 11.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 6:23:59 AM PST
J. Pardee says:
"Where are the other engineers then? It was clear this was not their homeworld as David and Dr Shaw left to go there and they were terraforming it. It was not a natural Oxygen planet. So we leave co ordinates to go there?"

-It could be that it was a new planet that they were terraforming that humans among possibly other planets were supposed to meet up at.

"Ok there could have been two different blacks goos. They could shown that in the movie by running "tests""

-It's possible that the life creating black goo wasn't at the facility they had visited.

"So the same stuff that tore him to pieces from the inside was able to fix Dr Shaw's womb and make a whole new species? That's a stretch."

The black goo could have some of the same properties as the life creating kind so it could possibly be that it still could create life but in an abhorrent form which it did.

"As you say, speculation. That was never alluded to in the movie. They should have explained something about why they were wiping us out."

Prometheus isn't a standalone movie though so why would Scott answer all the questions in the first one? It was mentioned in the movie though that the Engineer's plans were to visit Earth around 2,000 years ago so it's a plausible idea.

"Let say you had to kill a bunch of rodents. You wake up and the rodents are in your home attempting to communicate. Your not a little bit curious as to what is going on?"

-At that point the Engineers were already sick of humanity and wanted it destroyed. Just because we might have evolved further beyond what we were 2,000 years ago doesn't mean that it would have changed their minds.

"Cmon, even scientific expeditions have military escorts. Do you think if we found something on Mars that should not be there and could get to it, would we send soldiers with the scientists?"

So every single scientific expedition we have gone on no matter how big or small we have sent military? I don't think so.

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 7:19:18 AM PST
UnderDogs says:
So was the guy in the beginning being dropped off on Earth to drank the black goo and create humans? They show him drank it, fall into the waterfall and then the DNA starts going nuts.

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 7:33:40 AM PST
just my opinion....that movie sucked

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 7:42:40 AM PST
Why did the Engineers leave maps on Earth, through the various cave drawings and such, for 35000 years to a planet that turned out to be a military installation?

- I think the Engineers wanted us to know our origins.

Why was it that if an Engineer drinks the black goo they create life, but when a human drinks it they become a zombie? Dr Shaw confirmed we had the exact same DNA as the Engineers, not similar, the exact same.

- I believe the Engineers may have manufactured different types of black goo. Remember, they created it, they can modify it how they want.

Why did Dr Shaw give birth to a facehugger?

- The DNA from the goo must have infused itself in the semen of the other Dr who impregnated her. Even without a womb, the sperm must have found a way to latch on and create its own environment so it could give birth to itself.

Is the Alien we saw at the end the Queen from Aliens? Why did it have a weird mouth?

- The Alien at the end was not a queen, just another Xenomorph which looked different based on its host.

Why were the Engineers going to destroy Earth?

- Engineers created humans and saw that they created something they didn't like.

Why was the medical machine, one of only a dozen and one of the most expensive machines in the world, only work for men?

- I think it's because they could only program so many tasks for it to perform and didn't get around to programming ALL surgeries (those for both men and women).

Why did the Engineer immediately attack the humans upon awakening? He was asleep for 2000 years, so last known contact with us we were on horseback and using bow an arrow. He wasn't a little bit curious about how we managed space travel? How did he know we did not have a fleet of space cruisers orbiting the planet?

- He probably was asleep until the designated time in which he could have been woken up to return to earth to complete his mission. Since the humans woke him up without having to wait, he figured it was sooner than later to complete his mission.

Why did we not have a fleet of space cruisers orbiting the planet? Or at least one? When Chris Columbus found America he had soldiers with him and multiple ships. Would it not have been prudent to have some kind of back up on the off chance you do find the space traveling "Gods" and they are happy to see you?

- This was a very expensive project as it was and they probably couldn't afford it. Plus when taking on risk, you do have to be cautious. They could have found nothing for all they know and would have wasted even more money. I think they included enough diverse personnel to take on just finding out some information. I am pretty sure they never expected to find what they did. There is only so much you can plan for. I mean, how would you plan for the worst case scenario when you're not even sure what it could be?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 7:48:24 AM PST
Why did almost every character except for the Captain (Idris Elba, who is awesome in everything he does) do stupid and implausible things that made me want to kick puppies to death?

(This is a rhetorical question)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 8:02:28 AM PST
Here is my general answer for any problems with that movie.

It essentially needed 1 or 2 more edits of the script and perhaps a technical consultant on set for all things science. It was entertaining enough in my opinion but there are holes in that movie you could fly a small moon/space station through. I went into the movie knowing people had these problems with it so I didn't let it get to me but the movie is definitely flawed.

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 8:06:23 AM PST
""Why was the medical machine, one of only a dozen and one of the most expensive machines in the world, only work for men?""

Because the machine was there for Weyland, and no one else.

Posted on Nov 12, 2012 8:08:53 AM PST
Peragulator says:
What piece of information ,that was left out in the entire movie, convince Peter Weyland (the billionaire that funded the project) that the whole trip was a search for the Fountain of Youth?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 8:11:43 AM PST
But from a technical standpoint it is kinda silly it would be set up like that. The only thing holding it back from being gender specific and gender neutral would be software and this implies that they actually stripped out software to make it the way it was. Also from a story point of view I don't really see the point of why the machine was gender specific as the character was still able to peform the needed procedure.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 8:14:37 AM PST
Ice King says:
Maybe they took out the C-section birth program so they could fit the treatment for testicular cancer program. They never really said what was killing Weyland.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 8:20:12 AM PST
"Also from a story point of view I don't really see the point of why the machine was gender specific as the character was still able to peform the needed procedure."

I agree with this.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2012 8:28:53 AM PST
In fact if it was important to the director that she manually have to do it they still didn't need to make a point saying it was specifically for men. That moment where the machine says it isn't programed to do a C-section is all that is required. In fact that makes more sense than this super advanced and expensive machine only knows how to work on one gender as I think anyone could understand that no matter how advanced it was it might not be programed to perform every procedure in the world.

This holds extra true as something designed for people who are probably far from proper medical facilities and spontanious late term pregnancy is extremely rare.
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