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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:28:12 AM PST
J. Pardee says:
Pretty much anything can be used to kill. The big difference though is that a firearm actually is something that is specifically used to kill(not all the time of course but that's the ultimate use for one) whereas the other things you listed aren't.

I don't mind stronger gun control laws but the government needs to learn that guns really aren't the issue in this situation. The issue that the government needs to go after is mental health and how they can make the healthcare system better.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:30:00 AM PST
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Knives?

I agree about the mental health issue. Who was saying that it's easier for a parent's child to commit a crime than try to get them help in an institution without said crime? Was that here?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:30:22 AM PST
Voice of god says:
That's great. I don't know why you're responding to me, though. You're not arguing with anything I actually said.

I said it was one policy that could have prevented could have prevented the tragedy. It could have. She knew he was crazy, and maybe she gave him access to it. Maybe not.

Either way, I see no downside to it, other than making paranoid gun owners even more paranoid about the slippery slope of Orwellian government that is surely coming and can apparently only be stopped by storing our guns under our pillows and in old shoeboxes.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:32:26 AM PST
So the only reason I should respond to you on a similar topic is to argue against your point?

I was stating it most likely would not have made a difference. I'm sure her son would have had complete access to the safe if she had one.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:33:09 AM PST
This, so much this. The shooter was a mentally unsound individual and the mother either didn't have the means or the desire to commit him (I am not 100% sure on this, they're still trying to figure this out) to a mental care facility and didn't recognize that he was getting worse.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:33:17 AM PST
Voice of god says:
"What this really does is set the stage for that particular President that, like Hitler, really wants to run a tyrannical government."

And this thread has finally been Godwinned! Took us long enough.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:34:03 AM PST
J. Pardee says:
But, but how will I cut my steak! If we ban knives than I will choke on my food and then food will be banned as well.

I'm not sure if that was here or not but that does sound right. Getting proper mental healthcare in this country can be an absolute nightmare. Insurance doesn't cover that much of it usually unless you have good insurance.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:34:22 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
Now all we need is a Poe's Law troll, and we can seal this up nice and tight.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:34:31 AM PST
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That Emu Kid says:
Firearms can be responsibly used for applications other than murder. Target shooting and hunting, for example. I know a family of gun owners that have never killed anyone, and I'm sure there are plenty of people on this forum that are responsible gun owners and have never killed anyone.

Posted on Dec 27, 2012 11:35:26 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
"What this really does is set the stage for that particular President that, like Hitler, really wants to run a tyrannical government."

I've been waiting for this actually. I figured that Obama would be more like Palpatine and assume full control before the end of his next term so he can stay in office, maybe even become Emperor.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:35:34 AM PST
Uncle Ulty says:
Sure, government having more and more control over law abiding citizens daily lives is always a good thing! More government control and more taxes to pay for more government control is what we need.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:41:14 AM PST
Pens should have banned after the movie Casino! ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:42:07 AM PST
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Posted on Dec 27, 2012 11:43:15 AM PST
JWK says:
This is a good law; criminals won't use guns inappropriately if we had better gun laws. Also, criminals wouldn't kill people if someone simply told them, "Killing other people is bad."

Come to think of it, maybe we should make a law against murder. Criminals always follow laws.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:43:53 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
"Yes, guns have many wonderful uses besides killing people"

Someone needs to watch the Simpsons episode where Homer gets a gun.

Posted on Dec 27, 2012 11:46:25 AM PST
So on a completely unrelated note it was pouring rain today and a coworker tried to tell me you get less wet walking than you do running.

I'm glad this person isn't in my department.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:46:59 AM PST
Target shooting is a sport. Building firearms for target shooting is a hobby.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:47:21 AM PST
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Didn't Mythbusters test that one?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:47:49 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
I'm going to the gas station?
Yeah, I get that, but why are you going so fast?
I'm trying to get there as quick as possible so I don't run out of gas.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:48:20 AM PST
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All I can picture is that scene from Baseketball:

"Who's Ty Cobb?"

"UGH!"

"Did I just fart?"

"UGH!!!"

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:51:01 AM PST
It explains why one goes 55 through a school zone.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:53:53 AM PST
It's pretty simple to figure out. Water falls a constant rate so the amount of water that hits you is a function of time. Walking/running into the water can be figured out through the distance you travel so how much water that hits you that way is a factor of distance (regardless of speed).

So going from A to B if you want to be as dry as possible you should spend the least amount of time out in the rain.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:55:42 AM PST
Exactly.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:57:03 AM PST
Voice of god says:
So is bombmaking and blowing up things in your backyard.

The fact that it's a hobby doesn't mean it's not dangerous, and it doesn't mean we should be cool with people doing it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 11:58:11 AM PST
I don't have anything against gun safes but to make it mandatory is absolutely ridiculous. I'm a single guy, I live with a roommate who is still in the military, and neither of us own a firearm. However if I were to purchase a handgun or a shotgun I'd much rather have it someplace I can actually get to it if I need it. Forcing me to buy a gun safe not only increases the price of the actual purchase but in my apartment I don't have the space for something that could house a rifle or shotgun.

Now you're saying that Adam Lanza, the person solely responsible for Sandy Hook, wouldn't have the foresight to get the combo to the safe, steal the key from his mother, or something else like that? What you're claiming is that the guns would have been locked up, he would have just said screw it, and nothing terrible would have happened? That is stupid beyond belief.

Terrible people will always find a way to do terrible things.

If it wasn't a firearm he was using he could have gotten behind the wheel and just ran those kids down as they left school, he could have set fire to the building using gasoline which is quite legal to purchase, he could have gone through the school with a knife, bow and arrow, crossbow, or any other type of weapon he could get his hands on. To say that a gun safe and/or locks on the firing mechanism would have completely prevented Sandy Hook and all these other horrible tragedies is stupid. There's no two ways about it. You've made a stupid claim without any means to back it up beyond hoping with all your heart that it would work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyS3CEIbpJo

This is a video about what has been and still is going on in Australia where guns have been banned completely. This is exactly why stricter gun control, bans, and more aren't going to make the world safer because TERRIBLE PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO DO TERRIBLE THINGS.

@ Andrey Dravinski

I live in California as well, served in the military, and I don't own a firearm however I'm completely against this bill and others like it. The only thing I can get behind, like you said, is better background checks however that only goes so far.

Mental Health is where we need to be looking to help prevent things like this and I'm amazed (surprisingly actually given the amount of stupidity in this country) that guns are still the focus of this. Do we blame car companies for drinking and driving accidents? What about the alcohol companies that made whatever the driver was drinking? Or maybe we should start blaming whoever sold them their drink of choice before they got behind the wheel? We don't do that because it is absolutely nuts to blame them for something like that yet we do the same thing with firearms every time something like this happens.

Just once I wish this country would actually deal with the root of the problem and not beat around the bush hoping to find a nice scapegoat so people can push their personal beliefs as fact.
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