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Initial post: Nov 8, 2012 7:54:55 AM PST
I know there's quite a few of you here. Enjoy! Or don't, I didn't.

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http://townhall.com/columnists/katiepavlich/2012/11/06/what_does_a_second_obama_term_mean_for_gun_owners

What Does a Second Obama Term Mean for Gun Owners?
Katie Pavlich
News Editor, Townhall
Nov 06, 2012

During the second presidential debate of 2012, President Barack Obama said, "What I'm trying to do is get a broader conversation about how we reduce the violence generally. Part of it, is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced."

You can bet he meant what he said. Obama has a long history of holding anti-Second Amendment views, despite portraying himself as pro-hunter and reasonable about gun control. A second term spells trouble for law-abiding citizens wanting to exercise their right to keep and bear arms: Obama is strongly opposed to concealed carry, has supported gun owner licensing and gun registration and voted to ban semi-automatic rifles, handguns and ammunition during his time in the Illinois State Senate. He even voted for the criminal prosecution of those who use a firearm in self-defense.

"I don't believe that people should be able to own guns," Obama told author and economist John Lott, according to an interview Lott did on the Michael Medved Show in 2008.

The effects of a second Obama term will reach far beyond the next four years and will have grave consequences for gun owners. If re-elected, Obama will have as many as three opportunities to place more anti-Second Amendment judges on the Supreme Court... for life. During his first term, he appointed Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, both of whom, as you might expect, have staunch anti-Second Amendment records.

First Lady Michelle Obama understands the power her husband holds should he receive another four years.

"We're going to make a choice that will impact our lives for decades to come... let's not forget what it meant when my husband appointed those two brilliant Supreme Court justices... let's not forget the impact that their decisions will have on our lives for decades to come," she said during a February 2012 campaign event in Beverly Hills, California.

With the possibility of an Obama re-election and tipping of the Supreme Court in favor of anti-Second Amendment legislation, crucial decisions like Heller and McDonald will be seriously threatened with being overturned. Remember, these cases were both decided with a majority of only 5-4 in favor of upholding the Second Amendment rights of Americans.

But Obama's anti-Second Amendment agenda won't stop at the Supreme Court. He'll have the opportunity to flood the federal courts by filling over half of all federal judgeships with anti-gun fanatics who will rule in favor of Obama's anti-gun ideology. This will then allow anti-gun interest groups to flood the court system with lawsuits to infringe upon rights of law abiding gun owners.

In Obama's first term, we've already seen more gun regulations and registration requirements in Southwest border states, requiring gun dealers to report the sale of any law abiding citizen purchasing more than one semi-automatic rifle at a time. This new regulation was implemented through the Department of Justice headed by anti-gun zealot Eric Holder, whose minions ran the lethal Fast and Furious operation and still blame law abiding gun dealers for the violence that resulted from the program in Mexico and the United States. In the 1995, Holder suggested we "brainwash people" against guns and his current Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer supports the registration of all firearms.

"I'll also ask the school board to make a part of every day some kind of anti-violence, anti-gun message," then U.S. Attorney for Washington D.C. Holder said in 1995. "We need to do this every day of the week and just really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way."

On top of having a friend in Holder, Obama has loyalists positioned across the country actively interested in taking away the Second Amendment rights of Americans. New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg endorsed President Obama last week citing climate change, but the two also have an anti-gun ideology in common. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel adds more danger to a second Obama term and all three will work together to severely restrict the types of firearms citizens can buy. We've already seen the Obama administration block the importation of M1 Garand rifles into the United States and a second term only opens the door for the ban of the majority of imported firearms, including guns popular with hunters, sport shooters and collectors.

Finally, we can classify the first four years of the Obama administration as an imperial presidency. Scandal after scandal, including Fast and Furious, it is clear President Obama and his cronies believe they are above the law. In 2011, President Obama ignored a provision in the 2012 omnibus spending bill banning him from using taxpayer money to advocate for more gun control. Regulation is how Obama gets things done and a second term will allow him to achieve his gun control dream of infringing upon Americans' Second Amendment rights. In an election in which voters are understandably focused on economic issues, it's important to remember the underhanded methods at the president's executive disposal. Based on his record, it is likely he will choose to implement those methods in a second term.

Posted on Nov 8, 2012 7:57:08 AM PST
JJ4prez says:
"Finally, we can classify the first four years of the Obama administration as an imperial presidency. Scandal after scandal, including Fast and Furious, it is clear President Obama and his cronies believe they are above the law."

Really now.

Posted on Nov 8, 2012 7:57:53 AM PST
I refuse to let him take away my gun ownership! It will never happen and I am not really worried about it.

Posted on Nov 8, 2012 7:57:55 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 8, 2012 8:05:36 AM PST
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp

Verdict: False

:)

Posted on Nov 8, 2012 7:59:02 AM PST
FOGE says:
This isnt surprising. I bought an M4 last Friday because of this.

And dont worry Cowboy, it would be unwise for the Govt to try and take guns from gun owners. I assume you can imagine how horribly that might go. It is highly unlikely they grandfather this in.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:04:17 AM PST
Yeah I know they wont. If any judge in the courts would allow this to happen then I guess we really are DOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMEEEEEDDDD! Like I said I'm not worried at all because it's unconstitutional. Then again forcing healthcare on everyone is unconstitutional as well. Wait I thought we were done with all this political crap.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:07:04 AM PST
FOGE says:
Yeah. STAY ON TOPIC! :P

This is just about gun rights. I dont know what will happen but the ban may not take place until Obama can replace at least one of the Judges.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:07:45 AM PST
Yep. I just bought an Arsenal SGL-21 and am about to purchase a VEPR in 5.45 x 39mm.

Buy now, just in case. Plus, they'll be in Washington where they don't have to be registered, so good luck trying to take away what you don't know I own. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:08:18 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 8, 2012 8:09:07 AM PST
Ice King says:
He's also going to stop pretending he wasn't born in Kenya and admit he's a Muslim Communist Nazi.
And he'll finally reveal that he eats human faces. Especially babies.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:08:53 AM PST
I wish I could afford an AR now, but I can't. :(

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:08:56 AM PST
Thank You for posting this

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:09:38 AM PST
FOGE says:
They look like AKs. Nice, I ve never heard of either rifle.

I may buy one or two more. I ve always wanted a Springfield M1A and a G3, well a HK91.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:10:12 AM PST
FOGE says:
Credit card man! You can get an AK for under $500.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:10:47 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 8, 2012 8:12:34 AM PST
SKS is fine for me :D

EDIT: I think it's similar to this one:

https://www.buymilsurp.com/images/TAPCO_SKS_RAIL

Posted on Nov 8, 2012 8:11:56 AM PST
Wow, no idea what this is about because I couldn't read this "article" that looks like it was written by a person with a tinfoil hat on. I don't listen to nutjobs.

Posted on Nov 8, 2012 8:12:50 AM PST
R. Typo says:
Call of Duty seems to have had a profound effect on gamers buying guns.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:13:12 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 8, 2012 8:13:25 AM PST
Well, it sure does have a lot of Obama quotes in it, so I can understand why you feel that way....

;)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:14:15 AM PST
J. Pardee says:
That whole argument about Obama coming to your house to take your guns is so ludicrous. If you are going to shoot someone to protect your gun rights than you shouldn't have a gun in the first place.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:15:09 AM PST
FOGE says:
Link didnt work. But I know what an SKS is. I like those too.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:15:38 AM PST
FOGE says:
I bought my gun because oh Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:15:40 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 8, 2012 8:16:49 AM PST
Ice King says:
The sad thing is a lot of them actually believe this. Even though it's total bullshit they're so quick to fall for it because they're grasping for reasons to hate Obama.

Obama has probably been one of the best things to happen to gun and ammo manufacturers in years. I wouldn't be surprised if they were major contributors to his campaign.

For the record, I have no problem with guns. I also understand that even with regulations in place people who shouldn't have them will still get them. But that doesn't mean the regulations are worthless and should be scrapped.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:15:56 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 8, 2012 8:18:00 AM PST
It didn't? It's just an image. Poo.

Posted on Nov 8, 2012 8:16:27 AM PST
So wait, which amendment is Obama against again? They didn't mention it enough times. Nothing like a good scare tactic to really galvanize people. I wish people could get galvanized without conspiracy theories but whatever.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:16:39 AM PST
FOGE says:
Calm down buddy. I never said I would do that. Im just saying, grand scheme, if you take guns from every single person in the country, statistically there will be accidents or misunderstandings.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 8, 2012 8:16:42 AM PST
Yeah lets take away a right that helped build this country! ;) I own a gun because I can and it's for both protection for my family and for sport. If you want to take away my guns come get them from my cold dead fingers!

In all seriousness though, it will never happen!
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