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Obama calls for research between violent video games and real world violence


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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:03:49 PM PST
Because before video games, the world had no violence in it....

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:06:49 PM PST
good point

Posted on Jan 16, 2013 12:08:11 PM PST
MrnDpty161 says:
It's just the beginning, you see their drumming up the cause first before legislation is brought, you'll probably see more and more studies here and there, implicating what they want to find, and pressure on the main big fish of the industry while attacking the smaller ones. This was more about the guns than anything else, but they will eventually get there sooner more than later, if I was the game companies, I would probably project to lawyer up and find poltical means of CMA --- maybe even fork over some bloody meat to both sides of the political world.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:10:37 PM PST
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That Emu Kid says:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's not actually illegal to sell R-rated movies to kids. The MPAA is an independent body and the ratings are regulated within the movie industry completely privately. Making it up to federal law enforcement to keep M-rated games away from children is redundant, as the vast majority of retailers have policies not to sell them to minors. Parents that are ignorant of their children's hobbies buy them anyway. Logistically it seems like it'd be a huge waste of the government's time and the taxpayers' money.

Do you think it should be illegal for kids to play M-rated games even if they have their parents' permission?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:11:25 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:12:05 PM PST
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Lucanus says:
"Do you think it should be illegal for kids to play M-rated games even if they have their parents' permission? "

Nope. Sure don't. I just think explicit music, R rated movies and Mature rated games need a parent present in order to purchase by a minor. I also don't think it should be illegal if I decide to let my 19 year old kid have a beer with dinner under my roof. That doesn't mean I think he should legally be able to buy booze. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:12:14 PM PST
How many civilians have C-mags?

So if, like New York, the nation reduces magazine size to seven rounds, how many lives will be saved? I mean, how long does it take someone to do a mag change for an AR-15?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:13:05 PM PST
That Emu Kid says:
They already do.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:13:51 PM PST
This is asinine. What Obama is basically saying is "the body of existing research doesn't align with my preconceived notions, so let's research it until we get a result that agrees with my biases."

Just a waste of time and money.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:14:10 PM PST
FOGE says:
couple seconds.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:14:33 PM PST
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Lucanus says:
Already do what? There is no law mandating anything. It is up to the store and whoever is a clerk to make a decision. Kids legally can buy porn, R rated movies, explicit music and Mature rated games. I absolutely dont think that is appropriate. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:15:06 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 16, 2013 12:16:41 PM PST
Lucanus says:
My guess, a few seconds. A few seconds which could mean the difference between life and death. The change isn't the biggie for me, but having to break his current aim, change out a mag and then reaim is a biggie. Specifically reaiming could mean the difference in a life. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:16:17 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 16, 2013 12:17:33 PM PST
It is actually a violation of the first amendment for the government to require stores to card check people who are buying tickets to see R-rated movies, parental advisory label albums, or M-rated video games.

If the government were to pass a law mandating any of those things, it would be struck down as unconstitutional.

Store policy is the only way to filter access to these sorts of things (this is why, for example, while "the Anarchist's Cookbook" is not illegal, you will have a hard time finding a copy in a dead-tree bookstore.)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:16:35 PM PST
they are a government agency. they know where there bread is buttered.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:17:04 PM PST
This is correct. It is even a theaters choice to even follow the MPAA rating system and if they want to sell tickets to 12 year olds for R rated movies they can.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:17:48 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 16, 2013 12:25:33 PM PST
Lucanus says:
We already went through this. I don't believe kids have the same rights as adults. Plus the government can legally restict free speech of products to kids, see adverstising in tobacco for example. :)

Given alcohol and tobacco cannot be sold to minors, I see no reason not to do the same with other adult content. Just because it is media based doesn't mean children have the right to buy it nor does it mean companies have the right to sell it to kids. IMHO, I realize I am out numbered 20:1 here, so I might as well stop.

Posted on Jan 16, 2013 12:20:49 PM PST
JWK says:
Taxpayer money well spent, fearless leader.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:22:40 PM PST
Well, free speech has limits (it does not apply to advertising or pornography, for example) but the Brown vs. ESA decision puts video games in the same protected speech category as books, movies, and music.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:25:09 PM PST
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Lucanus says:
I know, but I don't agree. The vote was 7-2, I would have been part of the "2" not part of the "7". :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:25:35 PM PST
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That Emu Kid says:
Legally they can, but practically they can not. Every retailer that stocks those items has policies in place to prevent that from happening.

This may come as a surprise to you, but despite it being illegal for children and adults under 21 not legally being able to buy alcohol, some of them manage to get it anyway. Cigarettes, too.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:26:01 PM PST
Good thing you're not on the Supreme Court then.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:27:01 PM PST
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Lucanus says:
When I was in high school, pot was easier to get than alcohol, which I found interesting. Either way, some people get away with rape, that doesn't mean we should legalize rape. If we had carding, sure some kids woudl get around it, but it would make it harder and block most. :)

Personally I find it sad how easy it is to download porn. Christ any kid who can spell on a 1st grade level can find porn on the internet.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:27:33 PM PST
You don't think they should be protected?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:29:04 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 16, 2013 12:29:34 PM PST
Lucanus says:
I think kids should be protected. Being a minor sets up different rules compared to adults. Such a labor laws. I dont' think kids should legally be able to buy adult content. I just don't. Quite frankly I am astounded that people dont' univerally agree with this. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:29:13 PM PST
That Emu Kid says:
You keep seeming to ignore the fact that every major retailer already does card for games.
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