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Initial post: Dec 17, 2012 7:52:49 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 10:27:14 AM PST
Steven says:
I'll just get this out of the way right now. I'm too damn lazy/unknowledgeable to build my own PC, so I'm looking to take the lazy-man's route and just outright purchasing something.

Well, more like my mother is being VERY generous this Christmas and is buying me a PC.

Anyway. Halp? I don't know the technical terms when it comes to specs, unsure of what does what, so on, so explanations of why Processor X is better than Processor Y will fall on deaf and very confused ears. I'm pretty much asking for links on Amazon, NewEgg, wherever for reliable gaming rigs that are cheaply-to-modestly priced. I don't expect to run something like Skyrim at full detail with ease (is that even difficult? I don't know), but I *do* like a pretty picture.

~EDIT~

My laziness was quelled and I'm building now. Halp still.

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 7:54:36 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
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Posted on Dec 17, 2012 7:55:37 AM PST
Come on Fox did you really just do that haha

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:01:30 AM PST
Lol, it has a GT640 in it and it's $1000

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 8:24:23 AM PST
www.digitalstorm.com

Buy one of those.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:29:00 AM PST
That's the route I went. I decided I didn't want to go through the hassle of building onmy own again and hit up these guy. Got a screaming deal on my system and it's treated me very well. Plus their phone guys are surfer dudes and it was very hilarious to do business with a guy who was all "A'wright. Can I get your credit card number, brah?"

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 8:31:15 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 8:32:29 AM PST
got mayo?™ says:
I think another route for simplicity would be to buy an Intel Core i5 PC (and add a video card of choice)

Something with the specs you'd want ( 1TB sorage, 8GB Ram, fast processor i5)
Dell Inspiron i660-3036BK Desktop (3 GHz Intel Core i5-3330M Processor, 8GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, Windows 8) Black

You can get really nice gaming performance from cards in the $120-$150 range...namely GTX650 Ti, Radeon HD7770....at a baseline. And shop upwards if your budget allows it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:38:15 AM PST
budget?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:42:49 AM PST
Steven says:
Is the $100 price difference worth it with the different graphics card on this Dell?

Dell Inspiron i660-4032BK Desktop

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:44:15 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 8:46:00 AM PST
Steven says:
Y'know, I honestly don't know. A grand or less, most likely.

Like I said, it just has to be serviceable. I'm more of a console guy, but I do miss PC gaming.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:45:41 AM PST
Including a monitor/keyboard/etc or do you just need the computer itself?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:46:11 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 8:46:41 AM PST
Not at all. The integrated chip on the processor is faster than that "GT 620".

Buy the cheaper one and get a $100 graphics card on your own and just pop it in place. A GT 620 is what... $30?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:47:11 AM PST
Steven says:
I have pretty basic monitors I can get from work and for some reason I have several keyboards and mouses. Higher end monitors are more of a future concern.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:47:15 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 8:52:19 AM PST
got mayo?™ says:
There is no graphics card with the one i linked, it is the embedded graphics that the processor has. Its fine for desktop, streaming video, some casual games.

I think you are better served not buying one with a graphics card (as they are often really low grade for gaming anyways) and instead use that difference to put towards a card you want.

I personally think an HD7770 and GTX650Ti are the way to go to achieve the kind of gaming you are looking for and get you many years of quality gaming. They sip power as well and don't generate much heat, so they would be fine with the power supply in there.

Look at the differences in pricing between the one i showed you and the one you linked...~$120...that buys you an HD7770. Plug and play installation, very simple, anyone can do it. Watch a few YouTube vids and you'll see, its cake.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:48:40 AM PST
Please stay away from a dell/alienware....

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:49:40 AM PST
$30? And that'd be a fairly decent upgrade over the one I've got now you think?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:51:28 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 8:54:33 AM PST
No not at all. The 620 is one of the slowest GPUs manufactured today.

Upgrading from your card will cost around $150-200.

You need to be very careful about series numbers. Just because the number is higher doesn't necessarily mean it's a faster card.

Your 275 is actually on par with my 6870 for most of its specs and that's a $160 card these days. I think you'd need to look at either a 650ti, 660, or 7850+

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:51:42 AM PST
Steven says:
Any particular reason? I haven't touched a Dell in years, and I'm on a Lenovo at work, so I haven't a clue.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:53:15 AM PST
Steven says:
I'll definitely keep your idea in mind. Really appreciate the help so far, everybody.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:53:44 AM PST
Dell cuts corners. All pre-built manufacturers cut corners unless you're willing to spend a nice chunk of change. They put some good items in there and then give you a REALLY crappy motherboard or power supply.

Digital Storm costs a bit more, but you can get a decent PC out of it with good parts.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:55:13 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 9:01:12 AM PST
got mayo?™ says:
They are fine. They cut corners on some parts, but you can't compare it to one you build from scratch either. ALL PC makers cut corners.

My reccomendation with Dell is to simply upgrade your power supply in a few years , that is all. For a gaming/general use desktop, all you care is about the specs. That has sufficient RAM, storage and CPU grunt for a long term desktop solution. Just make sure to remove all the pack-in 3rd party crap they install on there.

If you can find another hardware brand with similar spec/price, shop them.

The problem with digital storm is that for the price you'd get an i5/ HD7770 like i priced above, you get an FX4100 AMD and a GT610/HD6650...something lowly...and guess what, that intel i5 Dell with a HD7770 will mop the floor with it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:55:19 AM PST
If you are gonna go pre-built this is a solid suggestion. High build quality and good customer service.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:55:50 AM PST
I may wait then. I was hoping I could get an upgrade in the $90-130 range.

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 9:02:11 AM PST
Steven says:
If I went the Digital Storm route, it looks like going with the Marauder (Level 1) would best fit the budget, sitting at $799.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:06:21 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 9:07:44 AM PST
got mayo?™ says:
I built an AMD 4100 FX computer with an HD7770 for work...typing from it as we speak for ~$475.

It pains me that you'd consider paying $799 for that and its a lesser machine. Not even the Level 2 at $999 can outperform that.

That Dell for $700 after the HD7770 would pee on it for fun. Not to mention for $799, thats $100 more that could go to a bigger GPU (what makes all the difference)
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