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OT: Obama's speech last night in CT...thoughts? Opinions?

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Posted on Dec 17, 2012 9:16:34 AM PST
Soulshine says:
No amount of anything ever could have completely stopped the madman the day of his mass murder.

What is it that allows a man to go mad and plan a mass murder?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:16:47 AM PST
P-Nasty says:
If the 2nd amendment was put into place to protect citizens from the government, why would you entrust some government official to determine whether you are fit to own a firearm or not? Yes, I know they do a background check already, but it's not as invasive as some sit down evaluation.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:22:05 AM PST
LogJam says:
I would trust a medical professional. Maybe whoever gives the psych evaluation should have no government ties at all. Think of the money to be made as a freelance evaluation proctor!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:22:44 AM PST
LogJam says:
Don't forget your gun. It's dangerous out there!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:23:39 AM PST
The same money to write prescriptions for 23 year olds with chronic ache syndrome and the need for medication to relieve their pain.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:23:40 AM PST
Yeah, they would have to be independent contractors. But I would trust them to do a good job. I think the worst case scenario is that they tell somebody that they can't have a gun when they maybe should have allowed the person to. I can live with that, they're not taking away their right to have food or shelter or anything important.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:24:43 AM PST

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 9:27:48 AM PST
P-Nasty says:
Ok, I'll make a compromise. If every gun-hating politician gets rid of their extensive security entourage, I will turn in my weapons. What makes their life more important than mine? If guns are highly restricted or illegal in their states then who are they protecting themselves from?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:32:12 AM PST
ie, if we used mental health professionals to decide who was fit to own firearms, you would have the rise of ones that are equivalent to doctors that prescribe medicinal marijuana to 23 year olds with chronic aches. ie, people that will pass anyone as fit to carry a firearm.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:32:49 AM PST
jtshiel says:
The entourages and escorts for lowly government officials makes them feel important.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:35:08 AM PST
LogJam says:
Wait. What? We're talking psychological evaluations from a trained medical professional with no governmental obligations. What's weed have to do with it?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:35:20 AM PST
Oh, I see. Well, as an aside, I don't care who smokes pot. But I guess you could see that, which is why regulations would have to be in place. I understand that you're not going to get everything perfect, but the status quo is not working.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:37:19 AM PST
You must be very well known where you come from that your situation is exactly analogous to a politicians. Why do so many people want to kill you?

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 9:37:27 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 9:41:08 AM PST
Sadly, if you're willing to commit the ultimate crime and kill innocence, you're probably willing to obtain firearms through the black market.

For example, the second Marijuana became legal in Washington, everyone was out and lighting up together, as they already had it before it was legal.

Like always, criminals will always find a way to get something that's illegal, while the law abiding citizens who aren't willing to break the law will be left without any means to protect themselves from criminals.

As a person who is often Libertarian and Progressive at the same time, I understand both arguments, however I just believe that someone who wants to kill is going to do so regardless. Look how many people have died by the border of Mexico because of the illegal drug trade. Now imagine a booming firearm trade even more successful than the one there already is.

I think we need more science dissecting mental illness, immorality, etc.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:37:31 AM PST
LogJam says:
Oh I get what you're saying. Corrupt firearm granters! I guess there will need to be some sort of safeguard against those darn doctors who plot to see everyone armed.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:40:07 AM PST
LogJam says:
Right on. It would definitely be for the best if they erred on the side of safety.

This just reminds me of the Simpsons when Homer wants to buy a gun and he learns there's a waiting period. He groans and goes "Ohhh but I'm angry NOW!"

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:40:08 AM PST
I don't either (about smoking pot), I was just saying that there will be ways around the evaluation idea... and most of the school shooters recently seem to be pretty sharp people (freaking nuts, but smart). Before passing laws, I'd want to make sure that they'd actually be somewhat effective....

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:41:32 AM PST
LogJam says:
That doesn't seem too unreasonable, and I see where you're coming from, but is your stance on the issues really as public and devisive as a politician's?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:41:49 AM PST
I think we're talking about execution of the rules versus the rules themselves. And yes, if the execution is terrible, the law would be just another huge waste of taxpayer dollars.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:42:45 AM PST
FOGE says:
One of my favorite episodes. Then he sits on his lawn and ducks walk by. A target truck, Flanders, bowling pins, Flanders again...

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 9:43:44 AM PST
Wow. some of the opinions on this thread are astounding. I am a gun owner. I don't carry my gun with me everyday, though I could if I wanted to. I don't live in fear of criminals, I just enjoy being able to excersize the rights I was born with. the right was not granted to me by the government. It was not given to me by a 340 year old document. It was a (generic creator) given right. that is reaffirmed by the constitution.

I don't live in fear of criminals. what I do live in fear of is people like mog, and Punk and JJ. these are the people that helped give rise to people such as Hitler, Mao, and stalin. I cannot fathom the mental illness and/or the sheer arrogoance of thesse people advocating the removal of rights of their peers and fellow citizens.

I am upset. I am upset about the events of last week.I am upset that politicians would use this as an excuse to furhter their agendas. I am upset at the tyranny suggested by people in this thread, and other places. you may think the 2nd amendment is antiquated., but I think it is needed now, more than ever, just for people like Mog and Punk and JJ, and the tyranny and evil that people like that breed. you may think this sounds like a sound bite out of the NRA hand book, but it is how I truly feel. It has history to back it up. All you have are scewed statistics out of the Brady campain.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:43:53 AM PST
That Emu Kid says:
Yeah, that's a really funny montage.

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 9:44:40 AM PST
Tim Hellman says:
I believe a written test evaluating personal responsibility and familiarity with firearms and firearm laws, much like a driver's test, should be required for all citizens before any firearm purchases. A practicality test afterward in a firing range, with an instructor would then be required. Generally speaking, we should require "gun tests," giving licenses out to individuals who pass both portions, and any citizen who wishes to purchase a firearm should be required to have this "gun license."

This would not have prevented massacres like the Conneticut school shooting, but it would ensure gun owners were more educated and familiar with their weapon, and would also weed out a number of undesirables having firearms. In the case of the recent shooting: either accept these types of tragedies as casualties of everyone else's "right to bear arms," or take everyone's "right to bear arms" away.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:45:13 AM PST
Wait ... Did you just call me "evil"?


In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:45:47 AM PST
Lucanus says:
I'd run to my kids room, lock the door and run out the window to a neighbors house. There are only 4 things in my house that cannot be replaced. Want to guess what those four things are? I have far too much to live for to get into a gun fight over material items that can be replaced. Granted it helps I don't view myself as John Rambo, but a father and husband. :)
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