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Windows 8, thoughts gamers?

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Initial post: Nov 13, 2012 11:24:48 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 13, 2012 11:25:23 AM PST

Microsoft has confirmed that only gamers running its new Windows 8 operating system will be able to take advantage of the new DirectX 11.1 technology, as it has no plans to bring it to Windows 7 or Vista.

For PC games the DirectX 3D graphics API is quintessential as it creates a framework for titles to use the computer's resources, no matter how varied its components might be.

With every new OS, Microsoft has updated the DirectX tech, jumping from DirectX 9 in Windows XP, to 10 in Vista or 11 in Windows 7.

With the recently released Windows 8, Microsoft has made a smaller leap to just DirectX 11.1. However, unlike DirectX 11 that came out with Windows 7 and was then ported over to Vista, Microsoft has confirmed that 11.1 won't be brought over to 7.

"DirectX 11.1 is part of Windows 8, just like DirectX 11 was part of Windows 7," a Microsoft representative wrote on the company's Answers forums. "DirectX 11 was made available for Vista but at this point there is no plan for DirectX 11.1 to be made available on Windows 7."

Will DirectX 11.1 force you to upgrade to Windows 8 or are you going to stick with Windows 7 and DirectX 11?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2012 11:43:28 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 13, 2012 11:43:55 AM PST
Iso says:
When the games require me to upgrade. Maybe.

Has anyone measured the performance hit of 8?

Posted on Nov 13, 2012 11:43:47 AM PST
JJ4prez says:
"Microsoft has confirmed that 11.1 won't be brought over to 7."

Eat my d*** Microsoft.

"Will DirectX 11.1 force you to upgrade to Windows 8"

See above

Posted on Nov 13, 2012 11:44:04 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
Gabe Newell says no sale. So I'm not buying it.

Posted on Nov 13, 2012 12:03:34 PM PST
DirectX 11.1 sounds like it has some game changing features ;)

Posted on Nov 13, 2012 12:07:52 PM PST
klopas says:
I haven't had problems with 8, but there's no good reasons for people using 7 to switch over as far as I can tell.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2012 12:16:22 PM PST
Anthony says:
if Gabe Newell told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?

in all seriousness, i'm happy with Windows 7. depending on how 8 shapes up, i might just skip it entirely and wait till the next version comes out.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2012 12:25:11 PM PST
Personally I'm kinda worried about it. There's talk now about how most computer manufacturers, in order to become "windows 8" certified will have to use more or less a "locked" bios interface that will prevent other OSs from being installed. I believe the bios interface is called UEFI (Universal Extension Flexible Interface or something like that) but the long and the short of it is that once you have windows 8 installed on a Machine with this Bios interface, you can't install another OS. It's basically like trying to jailbreak a phone, messy and complicated.

Posted on Nov 13, 2012 12:27:06 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2012 12:28:10 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 13, 2012 12:28:23 PM PST
MrFoxhound says:
Yes! It would be awesome if he would talk to me.

Posted on Nov 13, 2012 12:38:21 PM PST
Man do you remember when Microsoft tried to get all the PC gamers to upgrade to Vista because Halo 2 was only playable on Vista? Yea didn't work then and it won't work here.

See here's the problem with Windows 8 and DirectX 11.1; developers aren't going to use it because they know the operating system their consumers are on. We've already got the likes of Gabe Newell, Notch, and even the team lead over at the Serious Sam developer (his name evades me at this time) speaking out against Windows 8 and claiming they won't support it. So unless Microsoft suddenly intends to make like a tree and explode onto the PC development scene again they've really got no pull about what developers are going to use and not use.

Also given that many developers are still just learning how to play with DirectX 11 and get the most out of that (Crytek is apparently still getting over their Jersey Barrier tessellation hardon) I doubt there will be a long list of developers looking to start in on DirectX 11.1.

Congrats Microsoft you just made it all the more apparent that you're trying to create a closed platform OS and then you want to force users to upgrade.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2012 12:41:42 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 13, 2012 12:42:33 PM PST
M$ could throw some cash at devs to have a DX11.1 check box in the video settings (similar to PhysX). Doesn't even have to do anything, gamers will be driven insane :D

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2012 12:45:32 PM PST
Even then though I doubt it would be that big of a deal. I've run games on DirectX 9 (Crysis 2) when I had the ability to play DirectX 11. Why? Better resource management and also it all depends on the developers' skill at making use of the tech. Example Deus Ex: Human Revolution supports DirectX 11 but it really isn't that much of a game changer in terms of visuals. Sure things look smoother and a little nicer but I wouldn't feel like I missed out on anything in DirectX 9 or whatever version it supports.

Some games make incredible use of it and you see the difference. Crysis 2 looks down right stunning with DirectX 11 and it is a shame Crytek sucks at tessellation because it really drug that down. I don't think DirectX 11.1 is going to be that much of a jump ahead that most gamers will purchase Windows 8 just for that boost.

Posted on Nov 13, 2012 12:48:50 PM PST
How many games ACTUALLY use DX11?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2012 12:50:42 PM PST
less than have a DX11 checkbox?

Posted on Nov 13, 2012 2:57:16 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 13, 2012 2:58:04 PM PST
got mayo?™ says:
I haven't seen much of DX 11.1 features that would be industry changing...unless of course its architectural and developers benefit from it.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2012 3:04:51 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2012 3:12:07 PM PST
Uncle Ulty says:
Every game I have bought recently makes use of DX11.
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