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Obama calls for research between violent video games and real world violence


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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:30:06 PM PST
Uncle Ulty says:
He knows, he actually craves a government mandate though.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:30:51 PM PST
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Keller says:
I am not ignoring anything. Some retailers had kids being able to buy adult games at 20% of the time. It should be less than 5%. Somebody has a link to the data, I forget who, I think Nate does. I don't think kids should be able to buy GTA 20% of the time at Walmart. Since it is store policy and not federal law, the odds of not enforcing obviously are increased. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:31:06 PM PST
DVvM says:
The important difference between "video games" and "alcohol" is that the former is significantly easier for parents to monitor than the latter.

I mean, not only can illegal booze be consumed off in the woods somewhere whereas video games have to be consumed on a box hooked up to the television, but also video game systems have built in parental controls and keep a log of which games have been played on that system.

So if you have kids and they're playing video games you don't want them to play in your house, then it's pretty much your own fault.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:32:51 PM PST
JWK says:
Not quite following the logic of going from "why can't we require game retailers to card kids under 17?" to "What's next?! Are we gonna make rape legal?!?!"

Posted on Jan 16, 2013 12:32:59 PM PST
Keller says:
"So if you have kids and they're playing video games you don't want them to play in your house, then it's pretty much your own fault. "

Sure except general society has to deal with the results of bad parenting. You are talking about eutopia, I am talking about the real world. If some kid plays Bully for hours every night and bullies my child at school, it is a problem for me.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:34:07 PM PST
Well it's illegal to provide porn to a child as it falls under contributing to the delinquency or corruption of a minor. I would think this would also apply to AO rated games.

As for selling M rated games to kids most retailers already do not sell to minors and studies show that retailers are actually quite good about doing this and preventing minors from buying M games.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:34:10 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 16, 2013 12:36:41 PM PST
Keller says:
A poster seemed to be implying since something exsisted before we shouldn't bother worrying about it. His logic was since violence exsisted before games, there was no reason to monitor game. I extended his logic. :)

Posted on Jan 16, 2013 12:34:54 PM PST
Poverty, drugs and bad parents create violent children. Not video entertainment.

It's pretty sad politicians are still even discussing this.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:34:56 PM PST
Keller says:
20% at Walmart is good? Seems to me 1 out of every 5 kids being able to buy a M rated game isn't good. We must have different standards. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:35:28 PM PST
DVvM says:
Someone must have greased up the slope again.

Posted on Jan 16, 2013 12:36:19 PM PST
UziHorowitz says:
Only the government can think they can find the one nutjob who'll snap in a population of 311,591,917+.

Sounds totally doable.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:36:24 PM PST
pasteyswazey says:
I think K Archer has hit the nail on the head. Pour that money that would be used for this study into mental health facilities, doctors, and tests. There is no correlation between movies and violence, nor music and violence, and especially video games and violence. If anything video games help provide a catharsis, an escape from reality just like books. This study looks too much like book banning that the Nazi's attempted. Put choice in the people's hands and let them do what they will with media.

I'm for what the mayor of New York did with getting rid of pornography type media a few years back, but this IS different. It can be art. It seems like our government is trying to put more people out of work by finding an excuse to shut down industry and now the video game industry is in their sights. When will it stop?

It comes down to parenting. Pour the money into mental health and parenting advice/seminars/programs and get the word out. Put all schools on high alert for loners. Let's persecute the loners and make them sign up for rotc classes or band or put them in a group of some kind to teach them a sense of belonging whether they need it or not.

10 million may not seem like a lot when you're talking about government, but it would give me a life of ease for the rest of my life and I could make a huge difference with it in my community providing for many families. It's just a bad waste of money, and all they're looking to do is find more ways to tax and restrict our choices. I don't like it.

Posted on Jan 16, 2013 12:38:13 PM PST
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Keller says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_controversies

Where are people getting the notion that all studies have concluded there is no link between violent games and violence? The studies at best have been mixed. As far as I can tell, there hasn't been a real scientific study on the subject.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:38:15 PM PST
Most of the studies say kids become "more aggressive" without quantifying what that means. I only know of one recent study that mentioned that this meant they "punched and kicked" more.

At any rate it is not the government's responsibility to monitor the media that children consume.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:38:27 PM PST
DVvM says:
It also depends on the game.

Not all M-rated games are the same; if I had children, I would totally let them play Mass Effect. I would not let them play Call of Duty.

Just like how not all R-rated movies are the same; I would let my hypothetical children see "Waiting for Guffman" but not "Saw IV."

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:39:35 PM PST
DVvM says:
I think the aggression you get from playing video games is similar to the aggression you get from (for example) watching sporting events. It's a momentary response to adrenaline but dissipates quickly.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:39:41 PM PST
I've never played Bully, but I heard the protagonist was the one who was being bullied. And that the point of the game was to not be the bully. Correct me if I'm wrong.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:39:47 PM PST
Keller says:
Sure but you are being active in the decision. Which is the way it is suppose to be. Not all parents are active players, which leaves society to pick up the work load. Is this fair? Certainly not. Is it being realistic? Yes it is. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:40:11 PM PST
It's America.

We blame anything but ourselves here.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:41:21 PM PST
DVvM says:
I don't believe in restricting the freedoms of everybody in order to protect society from the stupid and careless.

Posted on Jan 16, 2013 12:41:47 PM PST
So America gets mired down in ridiculous litigation and heavy taxes....
China colonizes the moon and Mars.

Posted on Jan 16, 2013 12:42:07 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 16, 2013 12:42:29 PM PST
If this is what it takes for them to put this idiotic issue to bed then let them do it. If they are spending $10m say that M rated games are bad for kids I might have an issue with that. I would imagine it's no worse than letting an 8 year old watch Rambo over and over.

Ratings are in place for a reason. Period.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2013 12:42:12 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 16, 2013 12:42:43 PM PST
Keller says:
The only freedoms being restricted are children. There is no ban, there is no extra tax. Your freedoms as an adult remain unchanged. Kids do not have the same freedoms as adults in the first place. :)

Posted on Jan 16, 2013 12:42:17 PM PST
I just remembered something that happened a couple years ago.

I saw a little girl (probably like 5 years old) and she was dancing like Britney Spears. Is there a correlation between crappy mainstream music and becoming a whore when you grow up?

Posted on Jan 16, 2013 12:42:19 PM PST
I want to take this opportunity to say that we do absolutely, beyond any shadow of a doubt, have a culture of violence.

I can say this definitively because I remember watching live footage of American forces invading Iraq a decade ago. Think about that. The government funded the live-streaming of an actual war.

Tell me again how fiction makes us violent.
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