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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 10:38:14 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 3, 2012 10:39:25 AM PDT
Harmicky says:
Which is where Jobs ended up in the end anyway, concerned about making money.

EDIT: Which is all any CEO should be concerned about...

Posted on Apr 3, 2012 10:40:50 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 3, 2012 10:44:12 AM PDT
All successful companies operate with the same top priority.

It's hysterical that someone would even suggest that Apple - under jobs management - wasn't primarily concerned with making money considering the unchanging pattern of evergrowing pricetags attached to its merchandise.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 10:42:18 AM PDT
P-Nasty says:
Jobs wanted to give his products away for free because he was a nice guy, it was those evil people he worked with that forced him to overprice things.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 10:42:31 AM PDT
Jason Lee says:
I highly doubt that considering how much thought he and his team put into creating devices. But you can tell where his motivations were by looking at who he chose to promote within the company and the fact that he made sure that Jony Ive has more power than even Tim Cook.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 10:46:01 AM PDT
Harmicky says:
You truly doubt that his primary concern was turning a profit? Why the delayed releases in technology then? Why the yearly updates to products when the tech was already developed and ready?

I'm not knocking these practices, it's what's good for business, but let's not kid ourselves and think that Jobs was some technology saint who wanted to give us all these products out of the goodness of his heart.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 10:46:18 AM PDT
Jason Lee says:
I haven't noticed this pattern. Quite the opposite, especially in regards to their software.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 10:51:12 AM PDT
MrFoxhound says:
Jobs was just insanely loyal to people who kissed his ass.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 10:51:52 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 3, 2012 10:53:07 AM PDT
Your absentmindedness =/= Emperical evidence

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 10:52:52 AM PDT
Jason Lee says:
I think when it came to business Jobs was more concerned about profit whereas Bill Gates was more concerned about capturing and then dominating market share.

But I think when it came to product development Steve cared more about what would be a good idea. If his main motivation was money then I suspect he would have shipped the iPhone in 2005 instead of starting over.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 10:55:34 AM PDT
Jason Lee says:
But it's true. Apple's price tags aren't evergrowing as you put it. Quite the opposite.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 10:56:40 AM PDT
Harmicky says:
"concerned about capturing and then dominating market share" = "concerned about profit"

Same end point. And caring "about what would be a good idea" = wanting to make a profitable product.

EDIT: Full disclaimer, almost all of my products are Linux-based, mostly by Apple.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 11:00:49 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 3, 2012 11:01:10 AM PDT
Evidence? I'm talking about a cost vs profit comparison here....For you to argue that Apple would rather see no change in revenue instead of steadily increasing profits is pretty ridiculous.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 11:02:25 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 3, 2012 11:11:40 AM PDT
Jason Lee says:
Sure. But, again, I think Steve saw it as more of a reward than motivation.

It's no different than what artists say. If you want to write a screenplay for the money you'll probably end up with a crappy screenplay and no money but if you want to write a great screenplay you'll probably get both.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 11:11:06 AM PDT
Jason Lee says:
I made no such argument and you made no such claim. My response was to your claim that Apple has an
"unchanging pattern of ever-growing price tags to its merchandise."

Their price points have remained mostly unchanged except in a few case where they cut prices, most recently with the iPod touch.

But I can't stand people who mealymouth so I'm afraid my word will have to be the last.
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 11:12:44 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 3, 2012 11:19:48 AM PDT
You sure enjoy thinking for Jobs, don't you?

Heterophenomenology should always be approached with extreme caution, especially when delving into the minds of individuals you don't know firsthand and whom exhibit attributes not akin to the average human being...The right media coverage can do wonders to mold anothers perception, regardless of its authenticity.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 11:19:34 AM PDT
Jason Lee says:
From the FT: "We have insane amounts of respect for him," says Dave Morin, chief executive of Path and a former Apple employee, who recalls attending a meeting at Apple that Sir Jonathan conducted. An upset employee complained about an aspect of the MacBook laptop that made it difficult for disabled people to use. Sir Jonathan explained that the team had gone to great lengths to design every feature so that a person could operate the machine with one finger, including testing and adjusting the weight of the screen for three months so that it could be opened, with one finger, without tipping the laptop over."

I think people who only care about profits wouldn't care enough to obsess over a detail like this for three months.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 11:21:13 AM PDT
Only =/= primarily
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