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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 6:54:38 AM PDT
Word. Hawken is probably going to dominate the F2P shooter space, at least for a little while.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 7:52:59 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 25, 2012 7:53:24 AM PDT
I did no such thing. I equated free-to-play with being less free than actually free, and I equated 3rd- and 1st-person shooters with boring. The fact that I did so in the same post doesn't mean I was connecting the two. I even separated the points with hard returns.

@ your other post, I actually pretty rarely dig on individual games, except, as I mentioned, to tease and rile people up. In general, most of what I do that posters here seem to hate is say that certain less popular games are better than certain popular ones; or else say that certain popular games are not as good as many people seem to believe. A lot of people seem to think that because I don't think those games are masterpieces, I think they're terrible, which simply isn't true at all.

In terms of games, I do think this is the worst generation since the crash--not that I was playing games back then that I'd know if those first couple gens were worse or not--, and I will react bitterly to it from time to time, mostly because of all the wasted potential I see. Video games--or, at least, interactive media taken as a whole--have more artistic potential than any other medium humans have created yet. I hate to see it wasted on the comparatively mediocre (again--mediocre, not terrible) rehashed content we've tended to get since around the end of the 6th gen.

Posted on Apr 25, 2012 8:03:37 AM PDT
Kin-foot says:
I wish they would drop TF2 with all the maps and fixes (doesn't even have to have all the weapons/hats) on the consoles. My buddies and I use to love that game on 360.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 8:08:09 AM PDT
Ah, I thought your second "oh, wait..." was further modifying the first one. Still, free-to-play games are often quite free, not requiring any money whatsoever to play and have many hours of fun with.

You also say ridiculous things, like claiming that games can be rated on objective scales of quality. So are you saying you don't actually believe that? I'm curious as to how you know how good all of these current games are when you hardly play any of the ones that are talked about on this forum.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 8:09:28 AM PDT
Take it up with Microsoft and their rules about certifying patches, the size of patches, not allowing (with a few exceptions, I believe) free DLC, etc.

Posted on Apr 25, 2012 8:11:23 AM PDT
I downloaded Tribes but haven't had a chance to play it yet. Is it strictly MP or is there a campaign? Does anyone know if it natively supports the 360 controller?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 8:33:12 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 25, 2012 8:38:45 AM PDT
"You also say ridiculous things, like claiming that games can be rated on objective scales of quality."

Oh, no, I rarely lie on these boards. I just don't often mean what I say very seriously. It's an internet forum where I disagree with most of the members about many examples of what the forum is dedicated to--were I taking it seriously, I'd have gone as demented as, say, Flores by now. I should also say that I think it's a far more ridiculous claim to say that games can't be rated on objective scales of quality. "Good" and "bad" are absolute qualities, entirely separate from personal preference. Or how else could a person claim to enjoy bad movies? I, myself, enjoy quite a few things that I recognize as bad, and don't enjoy a number of things I recognize as good--everybody does. This is because human taste and preference are imperfect--not that there's anything wrong with that.

As to your curiosity, I did go into that a week or two back, much to everybody's dismay. I didn't do a great job explaining myself, because, as I've said, I don't take the site very seriously, meaning I rarely put in the effort to make myself understood properly. The short version is that, with a significant amount of research, by drawing on prior experiences, and using deductive and inductive reasoning, you can generally form a pretty solid opinion about something. This is how and why people get excited for (or dread) things they've never personally experienced. It's not perfect, obviously, because again, I, as a human, am imperfect. However, in my past experience, I find that, where my own preferences and my opinions about video games are concerned, I'm rarely wrong when it comes to video games, unless I let myself get drawn into the hype or get too excited about something based on too little evidence.

I would like to again point out that I rarely comment on how good particular games are unless I have experience with them or their series, except to be contrary--which is a definite character flaw on my part--in saying they cannot be as good as they've been hyped--of course, nothing ever is. Most of my commentary on the comparative quality of modern games is taking them, or at least relatively broad categories of them, as a whole.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 8:44:16 AM PDT
I've seen some Firefall video (this is the cell-shaded 3rd person/FPS one right?) and it looks amazing and looks extremely fun. Had a sort of Borderlands feel from the videos I saw.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 8:46:48 AM PDT
Well, you can have objective things like technical issues on games, but that doesn't mean that you necessarily can say what are the ten best (objectively) games you've played. Because the best games you've played is a subjective view. What if I played the same games and didn't find them to be as good (for example, Sword and Sworcery was boring to me) as you did? Of all of the great sins a game can commit, being boring is one of the worst. In fact, I think it was one of the worst games of last year. That is just my opinion, though. I don't claim, like you do, that this exists on an objective scale (since to my knowledge there were no technical faults with the game). It just seems you don't really understand what "objective" means, or you choose to continue using the term in a way that it is not meant to be used.

As for drawing reasonable conclusions based on research and/or past experiences of a game, I can understand that. I just can't understand writing off an entire generation as being the worst.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 8:47:05 AM PDT
Yep, that's the cel-shaded one.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 8:47:34 AM PDT
veeeeeery buggy right now.

Posted on Apr 25, 2012 8:49:15 AM PDT
""Good" and "bad" are absolute qualities"

No. 100% based on a person's experiences and point of view.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 8:51:29 AM PDT
Yeah and the videos I've seen stated to run it on good settings you basically had to have $3000 rig darn near. But MAN did it look fun.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 8:55:41 AM PDT
Kirksplosion says:
That's what I'm thinking - the only way one could deem a game objectively "good" or "bad" would be on the technical side, how flawlessly the game runs, basically. In which case, Angry Birds would be objectively a far better game than Skyrim.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 8:57:10 AM PDT
Haha, so very true.

Posted on Apr 25, 2012 8:58:27 AM PDT
Btw, an offside, I'm noticing a HUGE increase in F2P quality. I gave the new Age of Empires F2P thing a go and it was a BLAST. Alot more then I expected. MMO's lately as well have been taking a huge shift to F2P as well. Are we seeing the age of "pay what you want" games? It seems like this along with Kickstarter is giving gamers a LOT more control over what genres thrive in the market.

You still obviously have your normal AAA titles, but its sort of nice to see that emphasis more on "earning" your money instead of tricking you into buying a horrible game.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 9:05:03 AM PDT
Yes, we are seeing that. The thing is F2P games have been getting better for years now, but first impressions are hard to shake. The first impression most people have of F2P is usually an MMO that is failing, despite the fact that MMOs are often more successful once they go F2P (see DDO, LoTRO, Conan, DCUO, and others for reference). The other impression is that it's a game that sucks and that's why they aren't charging for it, when it reality games that start as F2P are more a statement of a company's preferred business model rather than a statement about the quality of a game.

I played AoEO, which is a fun acronym to say, for a while. I liked it. It was very much AoE, just with added MMO mechanics for progression.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 9:32:00 AM PDT
No, I'd say I'm just far more optimistic about human understanding than you--to objectively understand and determine everything, even if it's seems difficult, is possible.

Although to be entirely accurate, the way I actually mean this includes a form of objective subjectivism. And no, I'm not going to explain that. I'm going to go back to playing DA, instead.

@Punk
Oh, I can do relativism, too. Relativism is a terrible point of view, and since everything's subjective, you can't tell me I'm wrong.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 11:08:52 AM PDT
Haha, wow. I love how you make absolutely no sense, and then don't even try to justify or explain the things you say. Do you like speaking unverifiable nonsense?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 11:09:27 AM PDT
Heyoo!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 11:10:22 AM PDT
Is that an objective heyoo, a subjective heyoo, or an objectively subjective heyoo?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 11:11:52 AM PDT
That Emu Kid says:
From what I gather, he likes trolling indescriminately. And Dragon Age.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 11:12:38 AM PDT
Objective subjective? Sounds like Orc mischief to me.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 11:15:29 AM PDT
One of those things is objectively worthy of praise, IMO.
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 11:16:07 AM PDT
Sounds more like Orks to me. There is a difference.
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