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In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:46:10 PM PDT
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I think because it's an excellent show that is an adaptation of some brilliant books that are destined one day to be classics people owe it to themselves to at least check it out. This individual has, didn't enjoy it, and stopped...that sounds fair to me.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:46:26 PM PDT
To me a better movie analogy would be Saving Private Ryan versus Dancer in the Dark. The first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan were just intensely brutal, but I didn't realize how bad it was for those soldiers on Omaha beach, and gained a new respect for soldiers from it. Dancer in the Dark was brutal and sad on an insane level, with no real reason for it, I feel like I gained nothing for watching it.

Also, I highly doubt that Game of Thrones will have anything to do with literary canon, not because they are bad but because they are genre fiction, and genre fiction is generally thought of as second class by the literary community.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:47:57 PM PDT
Harmicky says:
Fictional or not, I think it's pretty understandable for (a normal) person to understand that another person may find incest unappealing in an entertainment medium, and not try to convince them to stomach it.

It's fiction for crying out loud, not a historical documentary of the holocaust or something.

Posted on May 8, 2012 1:49:48 PM PDT
Soulshine says:
There's only one way to solve this. Trial by Combat!

By the way I thought that was a dumb rule. I can suspend disbelief, but that one took me out of the moment for a bit. So anyone can go around committing crimes and just demand trials by combat (depending on where they are I guess)? Then they go free if they win? In Tyrion's case, if his champion wins? It just felt like a loophole or something.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:51:03 PM PDT
While I agree with you on that last point, I would have to point out that Lord of the Rings has successfully transcended that stereotype, at least in my opinion. Why Wuthering Heights will always be considered a classic and The Eye of the World cannot is beyond me. One is insanely boring, overly analyzed even though nothing is there to analyze, and the other is wonderfully entertaining, and if you really wanted to analyze it, could be seen as allegorical just like any other work of fiction.

Everything we write, fiction or not, is derived from our life experiences and then merely exaggerated.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:51:29 PM PDT
Oskar2525 says:
"Dancer in the Dark was brutal and sad on an insane level, with no real reason for it"

Then you missed the entire point of the film.

Posted on May 8, 2012 1:51:58 PM PDT
Not to get too much on a tanget but I am giggling a bit about how much we are saying "stomach it" to the subject of sex. #thoughtsduringoralsex

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:52:23 PM PDT
Agreed. I'm not saying I like it, I just think it's a fact. Also, the genre wasn't as defined when LotR came out, so it gets a bit of a pass.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:52:40 PM PDT
Yea, I thought that was funny. If I was in court and about to be convicted, I'd just demand to fight someone. They should institute that rule.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:52:47 PM PDT
Oskar2525 says:
Umm no, they believe the gods would decide the fate of the battle.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:53:16 PM PDT
No, I just didn't like it. Now if Spielberg would have made it, I'm sure it would have been brilliant.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:53:17 PM PDT
FV says:
It's not that it's fictional. For some (myself included) nudity and sex can be an uncomfortable thing. Having it highlighted in a show makes it hard to overlook. Punk has said that he's sure the story is great, but it's difficult to not factor in the other stuff. I myself know it is fictional, but seeing as how the characters have been established as siblings, there is a certain psychological aspect to it that makes me go "whoa wait a minute."

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:55:16 PM PDT
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Soulshine says:
Well I think most of them would probably be more planned out than the one we saw in crazy breastfeeding-a-grown-child-Tulley land. Trial today! Oops, okay you two can go now.

That imp can get himself out of anything.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:55:38 PM PDT
It kinda makes sense to me. These were brutal times and people were quick to go to war. This is a way to limit the bloodshed between two people rather two armies. I don't think of the world of Game of Thrones as the kind that is super concerned about peoples liberties.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:57:52 PM PDT
Soulshine says:
That's true. I just pictured someone like The Mountain going around doing whatever he wants, trial-by-combatting all over the place.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 2:00:41 PM PDT
Oskar2525 says:
He does do one.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 2:02:43 PM PDT
Soulshine says:
Ooo I'll look forward to that. I know Ned sent some riders to go get him but that storyline wasn't resolved in the first season. Makes sense though.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 2:05:47 PM PDT
AndrewA says:
I'm not trying to convince you to stomach anything. I'm just tired of people acting like it was a thrown in shock factor part of the story, or of people acting like it is the whole story. It was the lynchpin for the main story to kick off with, that's it. The main story has nothing to do with incest, and the main story was pretty darn good in my opinion. If your mind can't get past the fictional incest part, then by all means don't watch it. Either way, I honestly don't see what's so hard to stomach about a fictional incest in a fictional story. This was a story for adults who can handle such concepts and distinguish fiction from reality. If we were talking about a historical documentary that included incest, then I could see why it'd be a dealbreaker for watching the show.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 2:08:25 PM PDT
Conversely, if it was an actual historical documentary the incest wouldn't bother me. To be clear, it's not just the incest that bothers me, the theme and overall "feel" of the story kind of bothered me, and the good just didn't outweigh my general distaste for the book. So I stopped reading the book and I was really okay with it.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 2:11:17 PM PDT
Harmicky says:
I think that if you read the second post of this thread that you'll see that I am interested in starting the series. Also, never have I insinuated that the story revolved around incest.

I am merely suggesting that you be more understanding of another person who chooses not to continue to partake in entertainment that includes observing acts of incest.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 2:14:57 PM PDT
Soulshine says:
I can totally understand this, not because of any one particular bit in the story.

Overall it is just a bleak and depressing setting. No honorable person has good things happen to them. Or at least they experience a lot of pain, suffering, and loss - not that there are many good people anyway. I've only watched this first season but I can only imagine the book is even more brutal.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 2:21:31 PM PDT
AndrewA says:
I'm sorry, I've just seen way too may posts and reviews of the show that discount the story because two of the characters are related and in love with each other, and I think it's a great disservice to the story that Martin actually has been telling. Maybe I should be more understanding, but I just have too hard a time of seeing why it's a dealbreaker when it's all fictional.

To God: I'd love to see a more in-depth post about what bothered you about the story.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 2:26:45 PM PDT
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Harmicky says:
You seem deeply invested in others' approval of this show. It's odd.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 2:30:22 PM PDT
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FV says:
I think people have a problem with it, because outside of Joffrey, the sex serves no point. I said before that while it may be fictional, you have to take it as a whole package. Not everyone wants to read a story, and have their interest interrupted by scenes of nudity and sex that serve no purpose.

Also, people who take issue with something are more likely to take to the internet and review it than people that have no problem with it, so there is also that to consider.

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 2:31:18 PM PDT
It's one of those things where a person wishes everyone liked something as much as they do, and because they love this thing so much they can't understand why someone wouldnt, which then becomes an attempt to convert them...and then ultimately bitterness due to an inability to do so.

I get it.
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