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Initial post: Apr 1, 2012 11:30:47 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 1, 2012 11:53:10 AM PDT
Mike S says:
Hi guys, it's me again. I'm still looking at watches and have narrowed it down to 3 different ones. I like all 3 of these for different reasons.
Choice 1 Hamilton Men's H64455133 Khaki King II Black Dial Watch
A classic Hamilton with an ETA movement.
Choice 2 Tissot Men's T0444302104100 PRS 516 Blue Day Date Dial Watch
A sporty, yet classy looking Tissot, also with an ETA movement.
Choice 3 Deep Blue Men's OD500BLUE/ORG Swiss Eta Divers Swiss Eta Automatic Movement Watch
A sporty Deep Blue, also with an ETA movement.

Hamilton Men's H32515135 Jazzmaster Viewmatic Black Guilloche Dial Watch
I like this watch too, yet it is so similar to the Khaki King, and the King is cheaper, (money is an issue too).
The bracelet is what I like about this one and the dial too ...

What do you guys think of these watches I have listed here?
Which one would you pick and why?

I am really leaning hard towards the Tissot, but the Hamilton Khaki King is a little cheaper, so it may win ...

Thanks in advance for any input.
Mike

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 3:35:35 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 1, 2012 3:37:10 PM PDT
GRiM says:
Mike, it's going to come down to which you like best. It sounds like the finish on the Tissot and Hamiltons might be a bit better than on the Deep Blue, but probably not a lot. The Deep Blue is a very different watch from the others - a real diver's watch, with lots of water resistance and a lot of bulk. If you're going diving, that's the one to get. If you want something you can wear with a suit, you might want to go a different way.

The Tissot is probably the most versatile - you could swim with it and wear it with just about anything.

But if it were me, I'd go with the Hamilton Jazzmaster. My wife has a 34mm quartz version of that watch with a silver dial, and it's really nice. Of all those watches, it's the one I would most enjoy looking at on my wrist.

Posted on Apr 1, 2012 4:14:47 PM PDT
Mike S says:
GRiM
Thanks for the reply, I do like the Jazzmaster a lot and you are right the Deep Blue is different than the other ones one my list, I liked it for the blue dial, but I think it may be a little flashy for me.
I really want my first auto to be Swiss and Hamilton and Tissot have the styles that catch my eye. The Hamilton watches claim to be 8mm thick, that seems thin for an auto, but would be nice for sliding under a cuff.
So, I can mark the Deep Blue off the list (for now) and try to decide between Tissot and Hamilton.
Thanks again
Mike

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 4:43:20 PM PDT
GRiM says:
Mike, I doubt the 8mm thickness. Amazon is not always terribly accurate on some of those details - I don't think there's any evil intention, they're just a little careless. This review puts the thickness at 11mm, which is a little on the thick side, but not terribly so if you consider the domed crystal. Hamilton's website (annoyingly) doesn't list thickness. My autos range between about 9mm and 13mm, and it does make a difference for some of my tighter cuffs.

http://www.rosswatchreview.com/?p=705

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 5:43:36 PM PDT
Mike S says:
That one is in the Rose Gold, it is very nice.
Is it practical to buy leather straps and swap back and forth?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 5:50:25 PM PDT
GRiM says:
Mike, it's certainly practical. I wouldn't exactly call it easy, but once you get accustomed to it you can generally swap straps/bracelets in 5 or 10 minutes.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 6:01:09 PM PDT
Hi, Mike. Concur with GRiM on most aspects, but of the three I believe that the Tissot would be more an all around watch.

You might want to check out the Debaufre Ocean GMT. Looks much like the Rolex GMT, but a little larger at 42mm. Has 300m water resistance, an ETA 2893-2 movement (one of the best, IMHO), sapphire crystal, and Oyster style metal bracelet. Also looks very classy with an alligator, croc black strap. Price is roughly in the same ballpark as the three that you are now contemplating. Good luck. LP

Posted on Apr 1, 2012 6:03:45 PM PDT
Mike S says:
I wonder why the Jazzmater that I'm looking at Hamilton Men's H32515135 Jazzmaster Viewmatic Black Guilloche Dial Watch is cheaper than this Jazzmaster?
Hamilton Men's H32455131 Jazzmaster Black Dial Watch
There are a lot of Hamilton watches in this price range to choose from.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 6:13:16 PM PDT
Mike S says:
good to hear from you LP
I searched for the Debaufre Ocean GMT, but the only place I found them selling was at their own website. They are nice, but they are between 650 and 700, just a little above my wallet. The most expensive watch I am looking at here on Amazon is the Tissot for 545, and that is stretching it for me.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 6:18:29 PM PDT
GRiM says:
Mike, I would venture to say there's no good reason for the price difference - actually, the first one you cited has an MSRP $5 higher. Just a difference in the amount of discount, which can frankly be a little random and vary from day to day and site to site.

LP, I actually agree with you that the Tissot is more versatile. I just like the Hamilton better.

Posted on Apr 1, 2012 6:28:49 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 1, 2012 6:30:44 PM PDT
Mike S says:
Since my search began my tastes have changed, in the beginning I was looking for a more flashy dive type watch, but now I think I like the elegance of the Hamilton.
I have been searching on Amazon using these search terms - Watches › Automatic Self-Wind › Men's › $200-$600 › 4 brands › Metal (Metal Band)
The 4 Brands being, Hamilton, Tissot, Wenger and Victorinox Swiss Army.

Do you guys know of another Swiss brand that would fall in this price range that I should consider?

I continue to look, but I keep coming back to Hamilton Men's H32515135 Jazzmaster Viewmatic Black Guilloche Dial Watch

At least for now ...

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 6:37:05 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 1, 2012 6:39:17 PM PDT
Sorry to hear that they have gone up, Mike. When I bought mine they were going for $500. I actually got mine for $450 on a short special they were running. I know what it is like to keep your watch purchases within your budget. Watch prices pretty much across the board have risen a lot over the past few years.

Yeah, like GRiM inferred sometimes you just have to keep checking to see what the best price will be. I'm, it seems, always too late or too early.

GRiM, both are nice watches. I predicated my decision based on WR, but would be happy with either one of them. But then you know me --- I'd end up getting the Deep Blue and attach it to that stick you always have my watches dangling from (lol).

Take care fellas, and once again good luck, Mike. LP

P.S. GRiM, haven't heard from X lately. Getting a little concerned.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 6:43:02 PM PDT
GRiM says:
Mike, I think you've got the relevant brands covered. I don't think Movado has any automatics in the right price range. I discovered earlier this week that the Raymond Weil Parsifal I got for $1,600 is selling for $900 at Costco, but it sounds like that's still more than you want to pay:

Raymond Weil Men's 2841-ST-00608 Parsifal Grey Dial Watch

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 6:45:29 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 1, 2012 6:47:28 PM PDT
GRiM says:
Um... Yeah, you're right, LP, X has been absent for a while. Normally I wouldn't worry as he tends to vanish for extended periods, but it's a little concerning with his recent health issues.

On the other hand, if I'm right and he's really Emperor Mollusk, he's probably just out destroying a planet somewhere.

Posted on Apr 1, 2012 6:54:26 PM PDT
Mike S says:
I have this anal thing about watches with roman numerals ... (I can't get over the fact that they are displayed incorrectly, ie. IIII in place of IV).
I did look at this ESQ ESQ Movado Men's 07301350 Submersible Stainless-Steel Bracelet Black Dial Watch
but it only has a mineral crystal where the Hamilton and Tissot both have Sapphire.

I did come across this one too Victorinox Swiss Army Men's 24148 Ambassador Black Dial Watch
It reminds me of the Khaki King. Tho the stem looks a little unprotected ...

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 6:58:26 PM PDT
Mike S says:
You guys seem like a pretty tight knit group, do you have his e-mail address?
You could shoot him an e-mail to check on him.

I have read through so many of the FAQ posts, I feel like I know most of you guys ... lol

Posted on Apr 1, 2012 7:07:13 PM PDT
Mike S says:
Another thing ... was it really 10 minutes after 10 when all of these watches had their picture taken?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 7:11:51 PM PDT
GRiM says:
Mike, a number of us have each other's email addresses, but I believe X thinks disclosing his would breach his security. The ability to maintain privacy is important when trying to take over the world.

With respect to ten after ten - it's just because most watches look better that way, as the hands frame the writing and/or designs on the dial. I would imagine they are all stopped at that time, rather than the photographers only having two windows of opportunity every day to get their shots...

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 7:56:50 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 1, 2012 7:57:20 PM PDT
Mike S says:
Looking at this Tissot Tissot Men's T0444302605100 T-Sport PRS 516 Black Day Date Dial Watch
It says the band width is 19mm but the other Tissot says 20mm.

I considered buying the one with the leather strap and then getting a steel bracelet later, to save a little money.

Where is a good place to get bands?
And should I wait and measure the watch before buying a new band, just in case Amazon has that information incorrect.

Posted on Apr 1, 2012 9:02:22 PM PDT
Mike S says:
What do you guys think of these bands?
http://www.tungchoywatch.com/product_info.php/cPath/282_299/products_id/2172

I like the style of band and I like the deployment clasp.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 9:09:13 PM PDT
That was what I was thinking, too. GRiM. Hope that you are right about him out there destroying a planet. LP

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 10:00:05 PM PDT
Yep, we are a pretty tight knit group, Mike. As Van stated, we don't take ourselves seriously, and can laugh at our mistakes. Personally I like laughing at their mistakes more (lol).

What other watch forum can you learn of Steve's shotgun scores/possum shootings, GRiM's total lack of self-control in paring down his collection of girly watches (all the while sending people to prison for income tax evasion), Van's encounters with aggressively seeking grade enhancement coeds, X's reports from from Mars, or whatever planet he is actually from, Doug's insightful comments on the State of California's march toward Communism, and 3's impassioned defenses of TAG-Heuer (we all wish that the would just get married and become like the rest of us) LOL. Oh, me? Well I'm a major award winning former mayor that is obviously beyond this type of tomfoolery. I stick around to add gravity to the fora (lol). A public servant to the end.

Yes, some of us stay in contact through email and the phone. X is shrouded in mystery, but it has been rumored that on dark and stormy nights, in a flash of lightening, you can see his wheelchair bashing and smashing expensive watches. I could only watch once.

Take care, Mike, and the straps, like the watches, are ultimately your choice, not ours. LP

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 11:04:01 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 1, 2012 11:04:46 PM PDT
David Wolfe says:
Mike, if I could throw in my two cents, I am a big fan of the PRS 516 with black leather band you are considering....you're getting a great Swiss watch, with a solid ETA Swiss movement, and it's a great looking watch to boot that would save you at least $100 or more over your other choices....and you should give it a while before you add a metal bracelet, as you might end up liking the calfskin leather with deployment clasp better than you think.....

Tissot Men's T0444302605100 T-Sport PRS 516 Black Day Date Dial Watch

Posted on Apr 2, 2012 6:07:32 AM PDT
Mike S says:
Thanks for the suggestion David.
I did consider that, and may consider it again.

My best solution would be for me to just buy both watches, the Tissot and the Hamilton, but my wife does not like that idea.

LP - From what I gather, you are still the Mayor of Watchville, I guess GRiM would be the Watchville equivalent of the Dark Knight and X is the super villain trying to develop an evil ray gun that changes our good watches into I******'s.

Hope everyone has a good day.
Mike

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 2, 2012 6:46:10 AM PDT
GRiM says:
Mike, wives are funny that way.

The leather strap is a good option, particularly if you're not planning on subjecting the watch to significant stress (like swimming with it or wearing it while you dig rocks out of your yard). One caution is that leather straps are easily acquired in the aftermarket, metal bracelets not so much. So if you intend to have both, in my opinion it's probably better to bite the bullet and get it with the metal bracelet from the outset.
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