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Initial post: Jul 6, 2009 6:44:18 PM PDT
I have MS and have been unable to walk for nearly a year and a half after a bad relapse. I'm doing physical therapy and hope to be able to be more active in the next few months but in the meantime, I want to lose about 35 lbs.

I have a 2 year old and haven't been able to lose the post pregnancy weight. I eat healthy choice and lean cuisine but I'm not having a lot of luck. Do any of these diet pills actually help control your appetite?

Posted on Jul 6, 2009 7:26:18 PM PDT
SJSSarah says:
Don't eat ANY processed food such as your Lean Cuisine, etc... Only eat organic whole foods. It may seem a bit hippie at first but because these foods are all natural they are easier for your body to digest and break down. They all provide more essential nutrients and when your body has been satisfied with these nutrients, you crave less food. Don't take diet pills. Learn to cook organic foods. It won't be easy at first, but I have been doing this for 3 months and I can't keep weight on. It takes some time at first to read up on how to prepare meals and what nutrients you need to make sure you are getting enough of, but its well worth it. I suggest an easy book to start with, "The 28-Day Cleansing Program" by Scott Ohlgran and Joann Tomasulo, however if you are ready to really jump into it, a more challenging book I highly recommend is "Healing With Whole Foods: Asian Traditions and Modern Nutrition (3rd Edition) by Paul Pitchford"

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2009 11:10:30 PM PDT
Lee mae says:
Sorry to hear about your condition.. I had a hard time losing weight because of menopause and I hate to work out, so I tried the hcg diet ( a couple of years ago) and it worked..I was going to a medical clinic and taking the shots. I decided to do it again but this time started the oral drops and the drops are also working, at half the cost. Send me a e-mail if you want more info on how to receive some. inspirationalbooks@cox.net

Posted on Jul 7, 2009 9:40:01 PM PDT
Stop eating all processed foods, and have one large meal per day consisting of lean animal/fish proteins, and vegetables. Take 2 time release multivitamin/mineral supplements and two teaspoons of hemp oil daily. This will cover all of your nutritional needs for the day beyond water.

You can perform isometric contractions instead of traditional exercise, even if you are bedridden. Good luck!

Posted on Jul 8, 2009 6:42:55 AM PDT
K. A. says:
I hate to exercise b/c of health problems. Look into metabolism boosting foods and diets. Once I stayed hydrated and ate fibrous meals, I found easting healthier was so much easier. I am less hungry if I eat small meals ( like 5) throughout the day. I feel full and everyone thinks I have a model's diet! I also take multivitamins, some fiber supplements, and eat pro-biotic. I prefer gummy vitamins as I feel like they are a snack, yet they are so good for me and my nails grow thicker too. Won't fix everything, but extra lbs when you are trying to get fit can make it harder. Also, studies show people who move around a lot can eat more calories and stay the same weight..... Good luck! I also have DVDs for yoga and pilates "for wimps" that you can do in bed! ( FYI I lost about 10 lbs, but went down 3 pant sizes!)

Posted on Jul 8, 2009 9:56:15 AM PDT
Agreed with everyone on the processed foods. I stopped eating meat (still eat fish though) and dropped weight instantly. Then I did The Master Cleanse, and lost another ten pounds. It's not meant for long-term dieting, but it totally changed the way I view food. Chemicals taste like chemicals to me now, and it makes it SO much easier to eat healthy without even trying to hard.

Good luck!

Posted on Jul 8, 2009 10:39:31 AM PDT
happytobeme says:
Jennifer,

Sorry to hear about your condition. I dont have MS but i did rupture my ACL recently and I too havent been able to exercise. I have a total gym that I use. Since I cannot stand on my knee this gives me a good cardio/weight training/stretching workout while laying down or sitting. I am not sure if this type of equipment would be appropriate for you. But you may want to talk to your physical therapist about it. Physical therapy is great but it does not get a good sweat going to help with weight loss like regular exercise does. At a low incline it is a gentle effective exercise.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2009 11:57:58 AM PDT
That is a very good suggestion that I hadn't thought of! Thank you! I will look for something like that that isn't quite so expensive and see what I can find. I keep getting suggestions about organic food and such but I can't stand up long to cook and I have kids that wouldn't eat that kind of stuff if you paid them. LOL! Besides that, I can't drive (numb right foot) and hubby wouldn't buy that kind of food, it's too expensive. Thank you for the great idea!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2009 12:59:28 PM PDT
happytobeme says:
Jennifer I got an older version of the total gym at Dicks sporting goods and it works great. I think it was only about $300. There are other manufacturers of that type of equipment. When I was going to my physical therapy sessions they had this type of equipment there that they used on their patients. They told that I could use it with no problem. Since I havent had surgery to repair this yet I have problems with instability and I fall. So laying down to do squats is my only option.

I understand your dilemma with organic. I live in a rural area and availability and price are a real problem for me too. Shopping in the perimeter of the store and staying away from processed foods will help you.

Good luck to ya.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2009 5:06:41 PM PDT
Michigan Van says:
Go online and join Spark People......and check your TV listings for a PBS program called Sit and Be Fit.......and good luck!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2009 5:08:01 PM PDT
Michigan Van says:
Yes, please send me more information about the oral drops.

Posted on Jul 11, 2009 3:40:41 AM PDT
Well, I used to weigh over 500 pounds.

I was too fat to
A. Wipe my A$$
B. Tie my shoes
C. fit the car seat belt without an extension

What got enough weight off to be able to tie my shoes was low carb dieting. I was a very picky eater at that time. I could eat the same thing for a year straight and not get tired of it. I was visitng my sister at the time of my weight loss, and since she knew my eating habits and had control of the money my mom (RIP) Sent for food, she would have her family purposely eat food I hate and buy only low carb foods I like.

In a 2 month period, eating 80% of my meals with low carb food, I was actually able to tie my own shoes before I went back home.

I'd say A low carb diet could work if you don't have much to lose or if you're too fat like i was, it can be an excellent start, But I wouldn't recommend it as a permanent diet.

I tired it again last summer. I went from 250 to 230 in 2 weeks but My Stomach went through a Hell I refuse to put it through again, SO I do not low Carb diet anymore but It did help start my weight loss journey

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 11, 2009 12:10:12 PM PDT
Jennifer, I was diagnosed with beginning stages of MS 10 years ago. I got rid of the MS, lost 27 lbs and stay healthy using biofeedback and nutrititional supplements. I am happy to share some of my secrets with you if you'll email me. I have a free ebook that talks about how to begin reducing your stress so your body can heal itself. Like the other posters, you absolutely have to get off the chemicalized processed foods and begin eating organically. I started a weightloss program almost 2 years ago to help my clients do what I did. I have many options for what works for you and your needs. Whatever you decide to do, please start loving yourself first. You do that by putting your needs first, something we as women are taught not to do. There's a new book out that might help anyone reading this understand why we have such food issues, by Dr. David Kessler "The End to Overeating" The End of Overeating: Taking Control of the Insatiable American Appetiteadvancedbiofeedback@gmail.com Susan Be well.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 11, 2009 10:27:19 PM PDT
Jennifer,

There are several things that have been associated with increased hunger. These include: stress, sleep deprivation, caffeine (for some peoples genetics), and nutrient deficiency. I suggest a multivitamin, a vitamin C, and a tablespoon of rice bran oil a day (to receive fat soluble nutrients). If you would like to a review a book that examines the reasons hunger is increasing in the twentieth century, go to www.whydietandexercisefail.com and click on the contact page. I'll send you a free copy.

Regards,

Daniel Korn

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 12, 2009 4:26:02 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 12, 2009 7:41:53 PM PDT
Dfd Dfd says:
The hcg diet is a hormone...I wouldn't fool with my hormones. They are touchy enough as it is.

And, the diet that goes with it is a 500 calorie high fiber diet...who *wouldn't* lose weight on that!

Try to do more "phycial therapy" sitting down...I am sure it is a difficult process for you...hang in there!

Please, first try using a Little Black Book-Daily Food Diary and the free downloadable Personal Choice Menu template... http://www.dailyfooddiary.net

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 12, 2009 4:56:18 PM PDT
I'll check out the site you mentioned! I didn't know that HCG was a hormone, I just know I can't stick to a 500 calorie a day diet. You're right, I don't want to mess with my hormones. I have enough problems as it is!

My home physical therapy ended thanks to my insurance company but I should be starting outpatient therapy within the next couple weeks. I'm going to be working with the same therapist who did my home therapy and I'm looking forward to it.

I bought a wheelchair workout video. I didn't think it would do alot for me but it definitely makes me sweat. I'm looking foward to being back up on my feet and less disabled hopefully!

I appreciate everyone's suggestions and the info I'm getting! Thank you!!
Jenn

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 12, 2009 7:40:53 PM PDT
Dfd Dfd says:
Here is a site that talks about the 'diet' and its pitfalls...if I was going to go on a 500 calorie a day restriction and certainly would not pair it with something that is a hormone...they are so sensitive and too numerous to mention and I just would not mess with them. That's crazy talk...

http://health.howstuffworks.com/health-illness/wellness/physical-fitness/weight-loss/hcg-diet3.htm

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 12, 2009 7:45:59 PM PDT
D. Silva says:
Check out TTapp. You can find a few videos on youtube and the website is www.ttapp.com rehabilitating exercises.

I sell a pill I have been successful with and did not exercise the first 5 months but because of your MS I don't know if it would be good for you to take. You can still check out the ingredients @ www.reishislim.com

Posted on Jul 12, 2009 11:15:30 PM PDT
Jaded says:
I think there are a bunch of misconceptions about eating organic. When people say "eat organic" they mean "unprocessed." I think even the pickiest kids are happy eating organic strawberries or organic carrots. Eat more produce. Lots of it. Eat more fiber. You'll feel better and this is easier than "eating organic" in the way that implies crazy hippie food.

Try to have two-three servings of produce at every meal, and serving for every snack. Incorporate more of the health fats: olive oil, nuts, canola and none of the processed fake ones in your cooking. You'll get there. And try to fit in any physical activity you can. Good luck.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 12, 2009 11:22:18 PM PDT
Jaded,

When I say organic, I mean organic. There are several nutrients used in fat oxidation that are less present in produce that has been produced with chemical pesticides. This is likely one of the reasons Israel has such a low childhood obesity rate, despite a diet that is comparable to that eaten in the United States. Israel has replaced many of their chemical pesticides with owls and krells ( a type of falcon ) which eat rodents and insects. Nutrients are lost during food processing as well.

-Daniel

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 13, 2009 4:19:16 AM PDT
OldAmazonian says:
Daniel,
I didn't know that "there are several nutrients used in fat oxidation that are less present in produce that has been produced with chemical pesticides", as you contend. Would you care to post a link that substantiates your claim?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 13, 2009 7:55:11 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 13, 2009 11:56:32 AM PDT
OldAmazonian,

Not a problem. I am going to taking some citations and quotes from "Why Diet and Exercise Fail." The is also an article from the International Journal of Obesity. Something more interesting, but less studies, is that blood levels of vitamin E are highly correlated with insulin resistance. However, the effect of taking vitamin E supplements on insulin resistance is minor. It has recently been discovered that only a 1-2% of synthetic vitamin E is absorbed from supplements, and some researchers believe this makes the last sixty years of studies on vitamin E invalid. Since vitamin E is an anti-oxidant, it may be reduced by chemical fertilizers as well. I have included a brief sample of the effects of modern agricultural practices on nutrition, and the effect of nutrition on rates of fatty acid oxidation and insulin resistance.

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"Researchers knew that there were multiple factors involved in cell metabolism even before identifying them individually, and they referred to these factors as a group, which they termed the B-Complex. As different vitamins were discovered that were involved in cell metabolism, they were named vitamin B-1, vitamin B-2, and so on. Even though vitamin C helps increase fat oxidation, it was not included in the B vitamins because its effect is indirect. All of the B-Complex vitamins are directly involved in the reactions that either break down or assemble energy molecules in our cells.(citation 1)"

"Deficiencies in B-Complex vitamins have also been linked to obesity(citation 2)"

Also see the full article "Vitamin B6 status improves in overweight/obese women following a hypocaloric diet rich in breakfast cereals, and may help in maintaining fat-free mass" from the International Journal of Obesity. Since the B vitamins are the cell energy vitamins, there are a lot more links between fatty acid oxidation and them. There are also known links with vitamin C, and between blood vitamin E levels and insulin resistance (the ability of our food to make us feel full).

Decreased Vitamin Levels of Food Produced With Chemical Pesticides (this is not the only agricultural practice that does this)

More From Why Diet and Exercise Fail:

"Various cooking techniques as well as using pesticides can lead to losses of B-Complex vitamins and vitamin C.(citation 4)"

"During the refining process, wheat loses an average of 66% of its B-Complex vitamins, as well as 70% of its minerals. (citation 5) In over 90% of the wheat products sold in the United States (those which are not 100% whole wheat), processing techniques remove almost 90% of a form of vitamin E called alpha tocopherol and 43% of a form called beta tocopherol.(citation 6)"

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Citations:

1.) Robert Wildman. The Nutritionist: Food, Nutrition, and Optimal Health. New York: Routledge, 2005, p. 192

2.) "Vitamin B Deficiency Linked to Obesity Risk." Goldshield. 6/04/2009 <http://www.goldshield.co.uk/news/article-156/Vitamin-B-deficiency-linked-to-obesity-risk.htm>.

3.) http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v32/n10/abs/ijo2008131a.html

4.) Walter J. Crinnion. "Are Organic Foods Really Healthier for You?" Wellness Web. 6/04/2009 <http://lookwayup.com/free/organic.htm>.

5.) "Nutritional Content of Whole Grains vs. Their Refined Flours." Walton Feed. 6/04/2009 <http://waltonfeed.com/old/grain/flour.html>.

6.) "The World's Healthiest Foods: Vitamin E." George Mateljan Foundation. 6/04/2009 <http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=111>.

Why Diet and Exercise Fail: How Current Research Contradicts Conventional Wisdom about Weight Loss

Posted on Jul 18, 2009 9:10:02 AM PDT
A. Kirk says:
I recommend Weight Watchers online. I never go to meetings, but their website lets me calculate points for my food. I like it because I don't ever have to deprive myself if I plan carefully. I also like it because they have a recipe calculator so I can use my own recipes & see how many points I have been eating & make changes so that I can still have my family favorites. I also recommend you go to www.3fatchicks.com . It is the best weight loss support forum around. You can find information about any weight loss program you can think of & ask questions & get answers from others that have tried them. It is very inspiring to "meet" people in the same situation as you.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 20, 2009 5:30:10 PM PDT
L. R. Wilson says:
Jennifer..If you need to lose weight, and you are unable to exersize, the best way to lose weight is through Kevin Trudeau's Weight Loss Cure.
HCG is a miracle, anyone who's tried it knows.
www.healingbodysystems.com

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 21, 2009 5:56:27 AM PDT
D. Silva says:
www.ttapp.com rehabilitating exercises. Her Motto is: Less is more with T-Tapp". You can try before you buy on her site also.
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