Children are curious by nature. They like seeing and exploring new environments. A cruise ship is neat, especially in the eyes of a child. Plus, it offers the parents a chance to spend time with their children. After all, there are a myriad of activities to take part in on a cruise ship...yes, activities that are kid-friendly.
If the child cannot even walk yet, he has no clue where he is. He could be in the comfort of his own house and still act the same. So if the child is of mild behavior. Still, it's not fair to force your noisy child onto those around you, I for,one, did not take my boys out until they knew how understand and maintain appropriate their situation appropriate behavior unless it was a child specific environment. I didn't do this out of consideration for other people who I don't even know and may never even see again, nor do I expect them to concern themselves with me. I don't think it's anyone being deluded about everyone loving their children. It's being oblivious and unconcerned about other people, which isn't a bad thing. It's actually a common thing, I'm never really concerned about what goes on at anyone else's table and unless their paying my tab, I don't believe their concerned in mine. To sum up why parents take kids to pricy restaurants, they can afford it. Not worried about anyone else, which most people aren't worried about other people children or child-free. I have two kids, I monitored their behavior before I took them out, but it was for my sanity alone not anyone else's. I didn't want to chase them about in an uncontrolled environment.
Nork, you brought up a good point about getting hammered and stumbling around the decks. Well, when I go on a cruise, why do I have to put up with unruly adults that get hammered and stumble. When I go on vacation, I don't want to be around adults who act like asses. I have to put up with them for the same reason that someone has to put up with unruly children. I'd take the children over the adults any day.
There are cruise lines that cater more to older couples/people. Not to say that kids are not allowed. Check out The Princess Cruise website and you'll see the photos are always of more "mature" couples. Plus you can book your cruise at a time of year when fewer people are traveling with children. In answer to the original question, people take their kids on cruises because we live in America and we are free to do things that may annoy others.
One can be drunk without being rude and crude. Annoying people are irritating no matter their condition, especially on vacation.
My wife and I will get drunk and like any other times we've had a few drinks in public, we will not cause a scene. One could probably tell we're drunk by the amount of drinks we've had, but not by our behavior.
Being the grandparent, for my extended family of three daughters and 8 grandchildren, its costs less to take the children with you, per day, instead of paying for childcare. With most child care services (baby sitters) because of state and federal licensing laws, insurance services against law suits, etc. etc. the per hour and per day costs are a bit too much for many to handle.
My wife and I live in a different state than our children and grandchildren, and so are unavailable to babysit. But we have been involved in long distance discussions about the expensive cost of outside child care. I have noted a few forums started lately asking why people take their children to movies, restaurants, and now cruises, and for most of those questions, the answer is financial.
For a lucky few who don't have to worry about paying for the large expense of childcare, they do it because they want their children to be with them to experience the adventure. Why do children take their parents with them to Disneyland?
Prior to having a child, I felt like the OP. Now I've got one who's fairly well behaved, but occasionally gets overly tired and crabby. We do try not to subject him to others when he's in one of his moods. We've packed up and left restaurants, etc. When he's well-behaved he's quite charming. He's almost 6 and we're getting ready to take him on a cruise - a Disney cruise. Where I'm sure there will be lots of other understanding parents in the event he gets tired and crabby. And where we, too, will be understanding parents when someone else's overly tired kid acts unruly.
I was surprised when I saw this subject. Me and my wife just got back yesterday from a 7 day cruise on the Carnival Dream and I saw a few couples who broght their young children with them. For some reason it really didn't annoy me. We done about 22 cruises on various cruiselines over the last ten years and it amazes me the number of people I met who whine about things on the cruises, foods bad, too many people, they were bored, nothing to do and so on and so on. This is a cruise and you should have an idea on what it will be like. You stated that it was interferring with holding conversations at the dinner table and this is easy to resolve. Ask them to change your table and they will be happy to accomodate you (at least on Carnival they will change your table or time). We have been on cruises during spring break and the number of drunks may annoy me but it is my vacation and I'm not going to allow them to ruin my vacation. Most of the ships are big enough that if something bothers you just find someplace else to go. When my kids were that young we would have been too poor to even consider going on a cruise. It was after I retired from the Navy that we started going on cruises and our kids were grown (besides with 25 years in the Navy I took many Cruises and non of them came close to a Carnival Cruise). I see people bringing the young kids with them and I sort of envy them because I wish we could have. Just go with the flow and don't let it bother you.
I used to own a in home daycare. In my state, A Parent cannot leave their child with the daycare for a period of 24 hours....It is considered child abondament and the kids could be put in foster care if it were found out...
Off topic but to show my point..I had a young mother going to school full time, and then working after school..Just before a big exam she asked if I could keep the boys overnight, (most of the time they were asleep when she got there after work)...I was fine with this the the state wouldn't allow it...We ended up having Grandma pick them up for an hour and they went out for icecream...That way I didn't have them for 24 hours....She is now a wonderful and caring nurse. I feel good knowing that I was able to help her through that stressful time...It was a very hard year for her but she knew that the boys were cared for and loved....That made it easier for her.....
Maybe they have nobody they trust to leave their child with or maybe they feel it would be too traumatic to leave a child for an entire week or maybe the young child is still breastfeeding or maybe they just like staying together as a family for vacations. As long as the parents are being considerate of others and not sitting their ignoring their wild child while it runs around wild bothering others, what's the big deal? I'm sure they also have 'adult ONLY' cruises and resorts if it really bothers you?
None of us are entitled to have it our way all the time, as that only happens at Burger King and only if someone doesn't mess up your order.
There is no peace and quiet guaranteed on a cruise unless it's adults only and people that over drink, need a lobotomy or believe they are God's gift to the planet are banned. The only place it's acceptable for children to run like mad non-stop are places like Chuck E Cheese and that's what a parent goes to if they want to have their children unfettered.
"Maybe they have nobody they trust to leave their child with or maybe they feel it would be too traumatic to leave a child for an entire week or maybe the young child is still breastfeeding or maybe they just like staying together as a family for vacations."
Then you do not go on a vacation. Of course, when I was growing up no one could afford to go on cruises and beach vacations (I don't think people can now either, they just do it anyway and add to the overall indebtedness of society), we would rent a cabin by the lake up in the north woods, with my cousins in the cabin next door. No TV, just a row boat and cheap Zebco rods and reals with a tin of worms, dad and my uncle would golf a few days, but mostly we all spent our time together. It was real family time. It is a free choice to have kids and every choice has consequences that you must live with. Guess what? When you have kids your life changes, big time. If you aren't ready for huge changes to your life, no more happy hours, no more exotic trips, etc, until the kids are old enough, then you do not have kids. That's the problem with parents today, they all think they want kids but want there lives to be exactly the same just with kids. It doesn't and shouldn't work like that.
No one has the RIGHT to say that someone cannot bring their children along anywhere unless there is a age restriction either by the specific business or by law. Children ARE a part of the family, and if you go on a family vacation weather a cruise or something else, the children of those parents are a part of the family.
There is more than one restruant on board the ship. Some restruants may be visited by families while others will be used more by couples. Use one of those restruants instead. Another option is go to dinner at a later time. Families with children tend to eat earlier due to kids hunger. Yet another option is to eat a nice romatic dinner in your cabin.
If you have any kids, how often did your children disturbe other people in public. I would bet more often that your willing to admit to and the same goes for everyone here that is complaining that the child/ren should not go on a family vacation.
I would bet you would want kids off planes, trains, busses, and any other mode of public vacation travel.
When I was in my early 20's and would travel by Greyhound or Fly, I would take some comic books with me. When you get a bored child that sits next to you or in the seats in front of or behind you, let them read the comic books. You will hardly hear a peep out of the child/ren. I had many parents thank me when we got to the next stop. They forgot that children get bored more easy and dont think about bringing things to keep the child entertained. Today you have handheld game systems, portable dvd players, ect that will keep a child entertained. In my time it was comics, travel bingo, and other such things.
If you really get bothered by children that is on a family vacation, then why dont you stay at home, thats your choice as well.
Because I did not make the choice to have children. See, that is the difference. They made the choice, not me, if I wanted to be inconvenience by children I would have my own. It is not their right to inconvenience anyone else for a choice they made. Their children are their responsibility, not mine. This whole "It takes a village to raise a child" idea is BS.
When in a public area, you give up some of your rights to privacy.
But tell me what law am I breaking if I was to bring a child on a cruise? You may or may not like it but guess what TOO BAD. Oh and by the way, I have no children but I can usually tune out any noisy child near by.
My girls have gone on several cruises with us ~ it has been more of a cultural experience for them. They started going when they were 1 1/2 or 2 years old, which if any of you have tried is very difficult since they need a lot of 'stuff'. They are both very well behaved and look forward to every vacation but especially enjoy cruising for the new experiences on different islands. One of their biggest highlights is dressing up for dinner every night. To take your child on a cruise is also an expense, that we gladly pay, it is not free. I realize that there are those who's children don't behave, but most of them don't ALL OF THE TIME, they are children ~ but I've also seen a lot of ADULTS that behave badly, what's their excuse? Vacation is what you make it, if you're going to be unhappy with children around then find something else that is all adult. We personally don't like going to All Inclusives because people drink excessively ~ so . . . we don't go.
Most parents who take their kids on cruises just stick them with strangers in the Kid's Camp, Adventure Ocean, or whatever they call it. It's just day care, so no different than what they do at home. A true "family" vacation would entail spending time with your kids all day, time you normally can't at home since you are working and they are at school, these types of vacations are not that. Now if you admit that you just need a vacation and it's cheaper to take the kids with that's one thing, but don't try to mask it as spending more quality time with your kids because it just doesn't usually happen like that on cruises, kids go their way and parents go theirs.