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Gold Box Deal: Simmons ProSport 12x50mm Roof-Prism Waterproof/Fogproof Binoculars


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Initial post: Feb 27, 2013 1:16:44 AM PST
Billa says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 1:50:28 AM PST
OldAmazonian says:
A 12X50 has 12X magnification only, and a 50mm objective lens diameter. A most important specification that is not mentioned is this model's "eye relief" in mm. Lesser makers are notorious for bogus claims, so even if this low-end model claims 20mm eye relief a customer would be smart to examine the goods carefully to see if they work as claimed. A true 18mm or greater eye relief [known as a high eyepoint ocular] is needed for acceptable use while wearing glasses.

Posted on Feb 27, 2013 2:02:59 AM PST
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Posted on Feb 27, 2013 4:56:08 AM PST
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Posted on Feb 27, 2013 4:57:43 AM PST
L. Autry says:
Complete specs available here:
http://www.simmonsoptics.com/binoculars/ProSport_Roof.cfm
Model 899502

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 5:03:29 AM PST
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Posted on Feb 27, 2013 5:04:14 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 5:12:18 AM PST
OldAmazonian says:
L. Autry sez:
Complete specs available here:
http://www.simmonsoptics.com/binoculars/ProSport_Roof.cfm
Model 899502

I sez that URL returns this:

"The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable."

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 5:23:01 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 27, 2013 5:35:09 AM PST
OldAmazonian says:
bj jimbo, Billa was just remarking on Amazon's worse-than-useless

"Product Features
Multi-coated, high quality optical glass
BaK-4 prisms for brilliant light transmission
Rubber armor coating for better grip and protection
Wide range of magnifications and configurations
Waterproof, nitrogen purged and fully fogproof"

on Amazon's page for these. If these were nitrogen purged and genuinely waterproof, I migh buy one myself. Having some experience with falsely described optical goods, I'll pass. Sorry if I seemed like a know-it-all for mentioning the eye relief specification of which most lemmings are ignorant. Building and testing optics has been a hobby of mine for decades.

http://www.optics4birding.com/ChBin.aspx

Posted on Feb 27, 2013 5:35:57 AM PST
hwdoughty says:
Some people are reading too much into this. If you go to the manufacturer's website http://www.simmonsoptics.com/binoculars/ProSport_Roof.cfm you will see that the description "Wide range of magnifications and configurations" is referring to the fact that they produce this model in magnifications from 8x21 to 12x50 and configurations indicating "matte, black or camo" finish and "BaK-4" or "BK7" prism glass.
Unfortunately the description on Amazon is a copy paste of the manufaturer's features for all versions of this model, applied to one version. Not the first time I've seen poor/misleading descriptions here. Nothing a simple web search can't clarify.
For those interested, it states that the eye relief on this model is 16mm.

Posted on Feb 27, 2013 5:42:44 AM PST
So are are the detractors here saying that there is a better general use set of binoculars for the same price point, or is it a case of thread-cr*pping? If there is a better equivalently priced alternative please post it.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 5:48:59 AM PST
OldAmazonian says:
What you get for what you pay depends on how carefully you shop, Tim. I'm not doing your shopping for you . I'm not touting any maker's or seller's goods. Just hope to help y'all educate yourselves as "consumers", which seems to be what too many Americans have degenerated into.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 6:18:41 AM PST
Billa says:
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Do an ^A^ search in the price range of $45 to $55 for binoculars and you will see many in this price range.

Posted on Feb 27, 2013 6:19:27 AM PST
Brian says:
I'm so glad that Amazon is taking good care of the bird watchers today. And.. love the marketing shpeel with this product.. "tough and durable rubber armor".. Other adjectives "avid, strikingly, high-quality, full waterproof (like there's partial), armor"... They paid some serious $$$ for marketing of that caliber.

Posted on Feb 27, 2013 6:42:15 AM PST
R. Nebres says:
Good comments - thanks for an interesting discussion. Reading all this does help a consumer. I googled these and found that this model is marked down at Gander Mountain at $99, so people buying this product on that sight are getting what they pay for. I'm staying here for my purchase.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 9:14:53 AM PST
I think they mean that in the Simmons Prosport line they offer a wide range of magnifications and specifications among the different models, but this deal is for one specific binocular.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 9:15:48 AM PST
You made me laugh out loud, thanks.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 9:20:24 AM PST
c---kuta says:
This is useful for staring at people for lengths of time aka stalking?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 9:53:34 AM PST
Billa says:
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Posted on Feb 27, 2013 10:17:33 AM PST
SacTu says:
This was a lightning deal for the same price on Dec. 21, 2012. (I bought one then)

It works pretty well, though I didn't buy it for any particular reason. It feels like it's constructed with very high quality.

Posted on Feb 27, 2013 11:30:38 AM PST
How much do they weigh? I couldn't find it on the site

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 12:03:32 PM PST
Billa says:
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Shipping Weight: 2.4 pounds - unless that is a copy/paste error then they could weigh 6 pounds...

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 12:18:34 PM PST
Animal Lover says:
Would you say that this is a good deal? Do you think they are worth the price for what you get?

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Initial post:  Feb 27, 2013
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