Relatively new product - just came out in October 2012. Kind of pricey for $190 starting, then dropping down to $150 around November 2012 and a $50+ drop to $99. I guess its still trying to find the right price. Lorex has another product which is advanced recording and surveillance:
I have a different Lorex system that boasted that it can be reviewed remotely also. They left out the part that says you had to CHOOSE between remote viewing and still having the ability to record. It was one or the other... can't record if set to remote viewing -- I'd call and see if that's the case with this one!
Costco's product line changes constantly, and bargain-priced items sell out quickly, never to return (I know from experience). If he bought this exact model there, it could have been six months ago... or two weeks.
To Run and Dance: All of my wireless cameras have ethernet as well, which you could use in place of the wireless. Sometimes the setup is easier via ethernet. As to power, all of these cameras require a power source, whether they are wireless or not.
'C. Johnson says: "None of the 26 reviews had actually bought the camera, there are either Vine or without verified Amazon purchase, "
So unless its a verified Amazon purchase, they didn't buy it. Interesting, I didn't know that all products sold on Amazon are exclusive to Amazon and can't be bought anywhere else.'
They're pointing out the other reviews may be shills, astroturfing, or similar. They're not saying this isn't available elsewhere, just pointing out the potential with unverified product reviewers that those reviewers may have gotten the product for free by other means (and potentially in exchange for posting online reviews).
Think how much more powerful a wireless camera would be without having a power cord. You could place it anywhere within the reception range of your wireless router, even in a tree. Seems like the bad guys could just unplug this one or any other that required a power cord. Why hasn't someone come up with a solution to this? A battery powered "wireless" security camera seems like a money maker to me.
Because a review does not say that it is a "verified Amazon purchase" does not mean that the reviewer has not purchased the item. The reviewer (1) could have purchased it on Amazon using a different Amazon account or (2) purchased it elsewhere than on Amazon. Myself, I use several different Amazon accounts as I am uninterested in Amazon having a complete marketing profile on me. Also, I often purchase at COSTCO and sometimes subsequently review the item on Amazon; COSTCO is often less expensive and has a superior return policy.
@ Run and Dance: If you go that route, you either need a way to charge it or you have to keep replacing batteries. That's a pain - and the reason no one has done it. If you really want that ability, and are OK with the down sides, just wire one up to a lantern battery and you'll be all set. Most of these cameras are anywhere from 2-12 volts, with this one probably being around 6.
It should be pointed out, though, that if you set up the camera properly and have it conencted to a recording device, the guy should be caught on camera when he tries to unplug it and you'll still have the recording (assuming you've secured your recording device, of course.
That's exactly what happened when someone cut the wies on one of my camera: I got a perfect shot of him right before he cut the cable. The police caught up with him later.
But, it's probably a moot point in this case since it doesn't look like this is an outdoor camera.
I agree and I see where you are coming from as well and I also agree that all of the shill or fake reviews come from non verified purchases, but that doesn't mean the reverse is also true. Just because its a non verified purchase doesn't mean its automatically a fake review.
This isn't the only time people trash non "Verified Amazon purchases" as people who definitely didn't buy the product. Some have even suggested that any non "verified amazon purchases" shouldn't be allowed on here which is ridiculous. When I read reviews on here, I can pretty much tell which are fake; you know the one liner "BUY IT TODAY!!" reviews, the fanboy reviews, the reviews whining about shipping or other stuff unrelated to the product at hand. I think its good Amazon indicates verified purchases on people's reviews, but that shouldn't be the only criteria for people to determine if the review is legit or not. I think most people would be able to determine a fake review just by scanning over a few lines in the review.
I almost exclusively write product reviews on Amazon, but many of the products I review on here I didn't buy from here. But only being able to write the review from the place a person bought it from would be counter-intuitive and make people's jobs of determining if a product is worth the purchase or not even harder.
wow! you're really missing w. kwok very important point. he/she not saying that other stores don't sell this item. he/she is concerned that the reviews might be fictitious. none of the reviews are are from varified amazon customers. who knows if the comments from unvarified purchasers are real or fake. companies post fake good reviews for there own products and bad reviews for their competitors. it's a very common practice. maybe you should lighten up on the sarcasim! especially when you don't understand what you're commenting about.
This was already discussed between "tlon" and me; I understood his point of view and was satisfied with his response. Maybe you should try reading all comments especially when you're 2 hours late to the conversation.
Again, I agree companies do post fake good reviews for their own product; just as sites like Kudzu, and Yelp have fake reviews posted by the company itself; or they pay employees to write good reviews. My wife told me that the place she works the managers are paying employees to write good reviews. Also, I remember writing a bad review for a company on Kudzu, then magically the next day it has no less than six 5-star reviews from brand new accounts that pushed my negative review down from the "recent reviews" list. These were clearly fake reviews and edited my review to say as such.
But even still that doesn't mean that they all are fake that is all I'm trying to say. Yes, I could have been less sarcastic in my original response, but it just gets on my nerves when some people automatically assume reviews from non verified purchasers are fake.
C. Johnson says: "None of the 26 reviews had actually bought the camera, there are either Vine or without verified Amazon purchase,
Sorry but I have to agree with original post. Over 50% of all online reviews are fakes put there by people paid to put them there. Amazon introduced the verified purchase tag for exactly this reason. So you know it is a legit review. If there are 26 reviews and no verified purchases, there are certainly a lot of fakes in there. Maybe not all, but a lot.
The "verified" tag is definitely helpful, but the main problem for this product seems to be so many of the "vine" reviewers who got this item for free don't seem to have even used it, either out of lack of time to learn how to set it up before needing to write a review or just gaming the system. Their reviews sound like generic print ads touting the features, but no personal experience. Makes those of us jealous of the mysterious vine program and wanting the chance at free products too, even angrier. If I was given free stuff, I would definitely put in the effort of using the item to write a deep review.
But those positive yet generic vine reviews might be fine for the manufacturer that paid for them, since they still get the job done and make the product look better, because I doubt many customers even notice. Most still don't know the difference between 3rd party sellers and amazon, and leave bad reviews for products when it's the seller they should be reviewing.
"All of my wireless cameras have ethernet as well, which you could use in place of the wireless. Sometimes the setup is easier via ethernet." Or it may be that a router's signal is too weak to be accessible to the location of the camera.
I just wanted to point out that the lack of a "verified Amazon purchase" tag has nothing to do with if the reviewer bought the item from Amazon or not, the "verfied" tag is an opt-in, not all buyers want their purchase history available to everyone.
I'm a vine reviewer.... Not understanding why you would think our reviews are bogus? Whether we pay for the item or get it for free, we are reviewing an item we've actually USED. Isn't that the point? We aren't paid, and do not have to leave positive reviews. Vine reviewers are just regular Amazon customers...