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Hey Warren; explain this one! (I think Amazon's lying again...)


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Initial post: Dec 21, 2012 10:16:05 AM PST
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Posted on Dec 21, 2012 10:53:22 AM PST
eureka says:
You do understand that Amazon has a lot of warehouses spread all over US. And it doesn't necessarily mean that when you pick an item off the website, the warehouse where the item will be shipping from is located nearby. It could be located somewhere else. it doesn't also follow that the first scan of your package is the location of the warehouse.

Meanwhile, you understand that you are looking at the scan of UPS. Amazon is a retailer not a shipper. Shipping and handling is handled by UPS or other carriers. You do understand that Amazon do not own these carriers.

So yeah, I guess that it is your fault for shopping last minute. You had it coming. Things happen, delays happen even if you do not order through Amazon and order from ebay.

Anyone pretty well understands that.

Posted on Dec 21, 2012 10:56:01 AM PST
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Posted on Dec 21, 2012 11:00:52 AM PST
Xaa says:
What don't you get? Do you think UPS is in cahoots with Amazon in this lie because their scans corroborate.

Your package shipped, got to Louisville, took a scan that it wouldn't leave due to weather and then now has taken a departure scan. Amazon gets notification of that and sends you an email to let you know.

This is somehow a big conspiracy? Pretty big stretch.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 11:05:40 AM PST
Happy Holidays isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. It excels well at grammar, but it really doesn't have any real life skills. Which is why it trolls these forums 24/7.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 11:08:29 AM PST
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WTF?? UPS is supposed to be delivering ONLY express & 2-day packages
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No. UPS is delivering all packages. The delivery date guarantee for Ground packages is suspended for most of December, but the packages still get handled and delivered as close to normal as they can.

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Moreover, it appears it's already IN Portland
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No. The operations people in Portland made note that the plane from Worldport (Louiseville) is late. The package is not in Portland at the time of your post.

At the time of this post, it was loaded on the plane at Worldport, but in case you don't have access to the weather reports, there is a rather large winter storm that has disrupted air traffic in the Midwest, including Louisville.

As of this writing, I'm not sure if the plane to Portland has taken off, let alone landed yet. But I do know that the plane was not expected in early enough in the day to even create an ad-hoc shuttle system to get those packages out to the drivers who had to leave to deliver everything else on their trucks.

But good news: In the Portland area, the plan is to deliver those Friday air packages on Saturday, instead of waiting until Monday. So you should get your package tomorrow.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 11:17:34 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 21, 2012 11:20:18 AM PST
Way to go Warren!
That's telling S/HE/IT how the cow ate the cabbage.
Now how about a polka? :0

Posted on Dec 21, 2012 11:43:02 AM PST
Howling Wolf says:
Warren works for UPS. Trust him.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 11:45:47 AM PST
I work *with* UPS; not for them. I work with other carriers as well.

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Posted on Dec 21, 2012 11:47:05 AM PST
Howling Wolf says:
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I work *with* UPS; not for them.
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Way to go Warren! Playing the field!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 11:48:12 AM PST
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But it appears that the weather in Louisville wasn't all that bad.
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Yes it was.

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Posted on Dec 21, 2012 3:03:40 PM PST
SLAYER says:
Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future

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Posted on Dec 21, 2012 3:32:25 PM PST
BTW... The airport at Louisville was down to a single usable runway last night due to windy conditions related to the winter storm.

Sometimes when Louisville is impacted, they divert to Rockford, IL, but Rockford was totally closed last night.

Air shipments from Nevada to Oregon wouldn't have been affected as they would be going through the Ontario, CA airport.

Use your tracking number at ups.com to get the real tracking information.

Posted on Dec 21, 2012 3:33:12 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 3:52:44 PM PST
Thanks again for being so helpful, Warren.
I sure wish we had more customers like you!
BTW: What is your favorite polka? :0

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 5:09:37 PM PST
Now WHO is lying? You had to place an order to get a new ID to post.

Posted on Dec 21, 2012 7:06:35 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 21, 2012 7:46:06 PM PST
Chris says:
The Louisville airport experienced inclement weather overnight and delayed UPS flights which outbounded late as a result. The region experienced high sustained winds and higher wind gusts as well as storms to the South and Winter conditions further North. I am not sure if snow fell in the Louisville area but significant weather events definitely occurred most of the day extending overnight. You must consider flight delays feeding Louisville's UPS Worldport also contributed to the delay of service. I work on airport property in Memphis which is about an hour flight out of Louisville. UPS's flight inbounded Memphis at 9am as a result which is scheduled to be inbounded at 4:30am. Service as a result was delayed but I'm certain every resource and attempt was made to make deliveries on each of those packages today. As a former UPS package car driver I wouldn't be surprised to see those packages upgraded to Saturday delivery if service was not made today. Not to fear UPS delivery of air packages will be made Monday, Christmas Eve as well. I am curious was your package delivered today?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 8:28:20 PM PST
Chris says:
>>>>Air shipments from Nevada to Oregon wouldn't have been affected as they would be going through the Ontario, CA airport.<<<<

Warren you give a lot of good info and perspective on many topics however Rockford, Ill Ontario, CA Memphis, TN Columbia, SC Dallas-Fort Worth, TX among others are all regional ground/air facilities. They essentially are located to centralize air shipments before being flown to Worldport or disperse air shipments for delivery. Other cities will have a UPS Gateway which is typically a small leased facility on airport property UPS utilizes to collect or disperse more localized air shipments to large metropolitan areas. Each facility whether a Gateway or Regional Hub builds destination specific air cans to be processed at Worldport. Worldport is the only consolidation hub state-side in UPS system. If it flies it goes through Worldport in the States. None of the other facilities are large enough or are even designed to be secondary sorting facilities for air packages in the UPS system currently. UPS has spent billions on Worldport which is it's one primary air sort in the US. Packages are trucked in and flown in to be sorted, processed and flown to a specific destination to make on-time delivery. Worldport can process 416,000 packages an hour by design. In some cases entire cans are simply unloaded and reloaded on a different plane to make their destination. The average package is unloaded and reloaded throughout the massive facility in less than 15 minutes. It is said to be 2 1/2 times the size of Memphis's FedEx air hub.

A little over a decade ago UPS completely rebuilt it's air sort facility turning the new building in to a Next Day facility and the old sorting facility became it's Second Day facility. Since I have read UPS has spent another billion dollars upgrading technology refinements and expanding Worldport. I also read somewhere at the time when the Next Day building dubbed "Hub2000" was being built it was the single largest construction project on the planet.
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