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Initial post: Nov 5, 2010 5:27:56 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Nov 5, 2010 5:31:49 AM PDT
SLAYER says:
At about midnight on the night of November 4-5, Sir Thomas Knyvet, a justice of the peace, found Guy Fawkes lurking in a cellar under the Parliament building and ordered the premises searched. Some 20 barrels of gunpowder were found, and Fawkes was taken into custody. During a torture session on the rack, Fawkes revealed that he was a participant in an English Catholic conspiracy to annihilate England's Protestant government and replace it with Catholic leadership.

What became known as the Gunpowder Plot was organized by Robert Catesby, an English Catholic whose father had been persecuted by Queen Elizabeth I for refusing to conform to the Church of England. Guy Fawkes had converted to Catholicism, and his religious zeal led him to fight in the Spanish army in the Netherlands. Catesby and the handful of other plotters rented a cellar that extended under Parliament, and Fawkes planted the gunpowder there, hiding the barrels under coal and wood.

As the November 5 meeting of Parliament approached, Catesby enlisted more English Catholics into the conspiracy, and one of these, Francis Tresham, warned his Catholic brother-in-law Lord Monteagle not to attend Parliament that day. Monteagle alerted the government, and hours before the attack was to have taken place Fawkes and the explosives were found. By torturing Fawkes, King James' government learned of the identities of his co-conspirators. During the next few weeks, English authorities killed or captured all the plotters and put the survivors on trial, along with a few innocent English Catholics.

Guy Fawkes himself was sentenced, along with the other surviving chief conspirators, to be hanged, drawn, and quartered in London. Moments before the start of his gruesome execution, on January 31, 1606, he jumped from a ladder while climbing to the hanging platform, breaking his neck and dying instantly.

In 1606, Parliament established November 5 as a day of public thanksgiving. Today, Guy Fawkes Day is celebrated across Great Britain every year on November 5 in remembrance of the Gunpowder Plot. As dusk falls, villagers and city dwellers across Britain light bonfires, set off fireworks, and burn effigies of Guy Fawkes, celebrating his failure to blow Parliament and James I to kingdom come.
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Posted on Nov 4, 2012 7:40:17 AM PST
SLAYER says:
Remember, remember the 5th of November, the gun powder treason and plot. I know of no reason why the gun powder treason should ever be forgot.

Posted on Nov 4, 2012 7:42:02 AM PST
SLAYER says:
V: Good evening, London. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of every day routine- the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, thereby those important events of the past usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, a celebration of a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat. There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence. Last night I destroyed the Old Bailey, to remind this country of what it has forgotten. More than four hundred years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you then I would suggest you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot.

Posted on Nov 4, 2012 11:07:45 AM PST
A customer says:
Remember-- when you were young?
How the hero was never hung
Always got away
Remember-- how the man
Used to leave you empty handed?
Always, always let you down
If you ever change your mind
About leaving it all behind
Remember, remember, today

And don't feel sorry
The way it's gone
And don't you worry
'Bout what you've done

Just remember when you were small
How people seemed so tall
Always had their way
Do you remember your Ma and Pa
Just wishing for movie stardom
Always, always playing a part
If you ever feel so sad
And the whole world is driving you mad
Remember, remember, today

And don't feel sorry
'Bout the way it's gone
And don't you worry
'Bout what you've done

No, no, remember... remember
THE FIFTH OF NOVEMBER! - John Lennon

Posted on Nov 4, 2012 11:34:07 AM PST
BenB says:
But on this most auspicious of nights, permit me then, in lieu of the more commonplace soubriquet, to suggest the character of this dramatis persona. Voila! In view humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the "vox populi" now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin, van guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.

The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.

Verily this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honour to meet you and you may call me V.

(V for Vendetta)

Posted on Nov 4, 2012 3:47:57 PM PST
Bookgirl says:
Thanks, Slayer. They celebrate Guy Faulkes Day in New Zealand. I was there during it as my son lived there. Thanks for sharing the story. I had no idea what it pertained to.

Posted on Nov 5, 2012 5:03:10 AM PST
SLAYER says:
Remember, remember the 5th of november

Posted on Nov 5, 2012 5:12:41 AM PST
J. Mack says:
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Posted on Nov 5, 2013 4:39:15 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 5, 2013 4:41:04 AM PST
SLAYER says:
November 5
is
Guy Fawkes Day

Today is Guy Fawkes Day!

Guy Fawkes Day is an annual celebration commemorating the foil of the Gunpowder Plot in England on November 5, 1605. This plot was a conspiracy to blow up the Houses of Parliament in London and to kill King James I. Fawkes became involved in the small group of rebels and was valued for his experience in the military and his knowledge about explosives. After the plot was discovered, the conspirators, including Guy Fawkes, were tortured, hanged, and drawn and quartered.

Guy Fawkes Day celebrates the king's escape from assassination. Today, it is still a popular holiday in the United Kingdom, as well as other current and former British territories including New Zealand, Canada, South Africa, Newfoundland, Australia, Bermuda, and other Caribbean islands.

People celebrate Guy Fawkes Day by lighting fireworks and bonfires. Several traditional rhymes such as the "bonfire cry" often accompany the fanfare. Take part in the festivities today and celebrate Guy Fawkes Day!

Posted on Nov 5, 2013 4:51:07 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 5, 2013 4:51:36 AM PST
When we lived in London, we also learned about the lead up to Guy Fawkes Day, when children would display their effigies of Guy Fawkes and beg "Penny for the Guy?" Then they would use the monies to buy their fireworks. In the neighborhood we lived, some of the kids actually saved back some of their fireworks and brought them around the next July 4th to set off in our garden. One of the local Bobbies came by to enquire and as soon as I started to talk, he just nodded and replied "Oh, American. Have a Happy Independence Day." We loved our mixing of cultures!!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 5, 2013 6:30:42 AM PST
Are they celebrating that he atleast tried to blow up the king and put a catholic in his stead or are they celebrating that he was stopped before he could?

Posted on Nov 5, 2013 6:39:25 AM PST
And don't they know that the church of England is catholic even though it has a name of being protestant? Don't they hold mass at Westminster??

Seems like the plot that they intended Guy to carry out worked out after all

Posted on Nov 5, 2014 5:24:30 AM PST
SLAYER says:
November 5,
is
Guy Fawkes Day

Today is Guy Fawkes Day!

Guy Fawkes Day is an annual celebration commemorating the foil of the Gunpowder Plot in England on November 5, 1605. This plot was a conspiracy to blow up the Houses of Parliament in London and to kill King James I. Fawkes became involved in the small group of rebels and was valued for his experience in the military and his knowledge about explosives. After the plot was discovered, the conspirators, including Guy Fawkes, were tortured, hanged, and drawn and quartered.

Guy Fawkes Day celebrates the king's escape from assassination. Today, it is still a popular holiday in the United Kingdom, as well as other current and former British territories including New Zealand, Canada, South Africa, Newfoundland, Australia, Bermuda, and other Caribbean islands.

People celebrate Guy Fawkes Day by lighting fireworks and bonfires. Several traditional rhymes such as the "bonfire cry" often accompany the fanfare. Take part in the festivities today and celebrate Guy Fawkes Day!
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