Introducing the Sony A77
Initial post: Aug 23, 2011 9:55:25 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 23, 2011 9:55:54 PM PDT
Wing Wong says:
O.M.G!!! - I can't wait to use this in my photography!
Posted on Aug 23, 2011 10:27:12 PM PDT
Ya, that video was pretty nice. I have been waiting to upgrade, and was thinking of Canikon for a while, but I think this camera will end up being far superior to either the Canon 7D or Nikon 300D and their potential replacements especially when including video recoding. No way SLR technology will allow continuous auto focusing for video recording and FPS as fast this. Also, cheaper than the Canikon equivalents. No brainer buy for enthusiasts.
The real question in the upcoming weeks is weather the new sensor has surpassed the 3-4 year old FF sensors in the Sony/Canon/Nikon FF cameras. Of course real comparisons and reviews will be the ultimate test but I think it will be close.
Posted on Aug 23, 2011 10:45:25 PM PDT
Call me when the FULL FRAME comes out.
Posted on Aug 23, 2011 10:46:37 PM PDT
John Romuald Ruiz says:
amazing.. i will have this in my hands soon... good thing i did not shift to another brand.. sony is still the best.. like no other...
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 24, 2011 2:17:03 AM PDT
Next year there would be three full frame ones. You can see that on sonyalpharumors. They are always right.
Posted on Aug 24, 2011 8:51:19 AM PDT
Yeah, I'm not too thrilled about this. Continuous AF is going to be cool, but everything else...smh
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 24, 2011 9:11:25 AM PDT
you do realize Sony needs also lenses to compete with canon and nikon, right..
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 24, 2011 1:22:23 PM PDT
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Absolutely, but we are talking about APC not FF. There are many great lens, extending back to the Minolta days are equivalent/simrlar (or even better such as the 200G 2.8 prime) than the Canikon equivalents. All the G lense (35, 50, 85, 135, 200) primes for example, and then the zooms which include the Carl- Zeiss as well as G are all phenomenal lenses. For the enthusiast, amature, etc, Sony/Minolta have all the adequate equivalents lenses (along with 3rd party like Tamaron/Sigma, which on occation make the best lens for all mounts).
For the pro's maybe not (though there are some 300G and 600G lenses floating around). But I do not think I will even buy a $6000-$10000 lens unless I need it to make a living.
The A77 is a consumer high end camera. I would not worry about the lens selection, there is plenty of excellent choice. (plus every lens in the Sony/Minolta will have antishake, including all the primes that will never be seen on other mounts because it is in the camera. The antishake in the A77 is supposed to give 2.5-4 stops advantage, which is huge). Try walking around in the dark with a 50mm 1.4 prime and take a reasonably sharp picture at 1/10-1/30 second without antshake. You would have to boost ISO to 6400 while on the Sony I could stay at ISO 800.
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 24, 2011 1:29:09 PM PDT
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M. Ramos says:
Call me when the FULL FRAME comes out.
Hello?? It's out!!
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 24, 2011 6:54:21 PM PDT
go for it. canon has made it perfectly clear it has no intention to release any new models as it is quiet happy to milk the 5dmkII market. can see from their point of view, why bother investing in new tech when they are selling bucket loads of a camera with 8 year old AF technology??? It's clear that if it's a cutting edge technology camera you are after, then canon won't be making it...point & shoots and entry level DSLRs are their forte, they have totally ignored the serious photographer for over 3 years.
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 24, 2011 9:53:16 PM PDT
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LL Coolbay says:
What a nerd gasm.
Okay, af during frames? That's about the only real useful feature here.
I've never seen a pro have a problem with no AF between shots. If you honestly need this technology then you really need to learn how to use your camera better.
Knowing Sony, I have a feeling the noise at ISO 3200 and above will be abysmal.
Also, the pellicle mirror isn't new technology like all of you noobs are raving it is. For all of you newbies to photography, it was big at the 1972 olympic games. That's right. Here's a blast from 1972!
Sony hasn't even been able to surpass the F-1's framerate yet, and being a pellicle mirror makes this a kind of a laughable camera (14 FPS). 39 years later, and that's not much of a feat.
"sony is still the best.. like no other... "
LOL. Have you even used their system past the kit lens? I doubt it.
"The real question in the upcoming weeks is weather the new sensor has surpassed the 3-4 year old FF sensors in the Sony/Canon/Nikon FF cameras"
LOL. Dude. That is like saying. We are waiting to see whether this new 35mm film type will finally surpass the quality of 8x10 film.
Its NOT going to happen. There are physical limitations based on the size of the sensor. The DX won't beat FF period, just like FF won't beat MF. IT can come close, but that's about all you're going to get charlie.
"you do realize Sony needs also lenses to compete with canon and nikon, right.."
Sir, you are the brightest one here.
"zooms which include the Carl- Zeiss as well as G are all phenomenal lenses"
Those are all Cosina made, they cut corners in places that Canon Nikon and even Sigma don't, have the WORST manual focus ring out of ANY AF lenses I've ever tried (Canon/Nikon $100 lenses are even better than this). It's not even built for pro use. One of the other reasons no real pros will shoot Sony.
These lenses would break in a matter of weeks if an actual photographer or photojournalist used them.
People who buy zeiss, I feel sorry for you. You're kind of like the people who buy Harley Davidsons because you think they're the best.
"Try walking around in the dark with a 50mm 1.4 prime and take a reasonably sharp picture at 1/10-1/30 second without antshake. You would have to boost ISO to 6400 while on the Sony I could stay at ISO 800. "
LOL, no offense dude, but if you're walking around taking shots of crap with an f/1.4 lens and you cant get more than 1/10th of a second, you're DOING IT WRONG! I would have loved to see how you shot in the film days.
"A Nikon/Canon photographer would be walking around at 1600 getting perfectly sharp, fairly noise free images because they'd actually use the f/1.4 what it's meant for, not random quasi available light spying"
And since you're losing a 3rd stop of light, you effectively have to make every ISO 400 -> 500
800 -> 1000
1250 -> 1600 ISO and so on for every single shot you take. Sounds like a pretty bum deal to me. On something like a D3 that wouldn't matter, but on Sony's cameras which have a history of terrible noise control, and overagressive smoothing, it's not really something you can choose to overlook.
In reply to an earlier post on Sep 12, 2011 12:05:43 PM PDT
Gregory King says:
Hey LL, coming from one so adept as casting aspersions...have you shot FF, let alone MF digital? I doubt it.
I have, and I can tell you that in many ways, current APS-C technology can beat older MFDB technology. Heck, just consider the fact that no MFDB works well at high ISO, and many don't even offer it as an option.
Oh, and I'm comparing Sony to Phase...so I think your blanket historical statements are unsupportable. Add in your mindless drivel about CZ and 1/10 shutter speeds...and your post is essentially meaningless.
Posted on Sep 20, 2011 10:18:35 AM PDT
David L. Tong says:
Check out our review of the SONY ALPHA A77 - http://reviews.davidleetong.com/reviews/r
Posted on Oct 24, 2011 11:06:26 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 24, 2011 11:07:08 AM PDT
Michael G. Yanko says:
We've taken over 5,000 excellent photos in the past month with our 2 SONY A77s including 3 weddings and 2 engagement sessions.
We edit wedding photos from all over the country taken with Canon, Pentax, Nikon, Fuji, Sony, and Olympus. All of the camera makers have their fine points but none of the photos we get in can match what we are shooting right now with the SONY A77 with either the SONY 16-50 lens on Rina Marie's camera or the MINOLTA 28-135 on my camera. The over-all package of sharpness and color is unmatched. Visit our site for hands on reviews and over 1,000 photo samples. http://www.abetterdj.net
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