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Fire on the Water: China, America, and the Future of the Pacific Hardcover – September 15, 2014

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  • Hardcover: 288 pages
  • Publisher: Naval Institute Press (September 15, 2014)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1612517951
  • ISBN-13: 978-1612517957
  • Product Dimensions: 6.4 x 1 x 9.3 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.4 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (11 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #456,484 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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By lyndonbrecht TOP 1000 REVIEWER on July 3, 2015
Format: Hardcover
This is a sobering read. The core of Haddick's book is that the United States is seriously disadvantaged in any potential conflict in East Asia, because of lack of a clear strategy, inadequate weapons systems and out-of-date tactics. He makes his case fairly well, and of course modestly offers his own version of a strategy. That may sound like a slam, but if no one else has defined a workable strategy, he might as well. I don't know if he is completely right, but clearly there are issues, and this book is worth a look. The maps are good, the illustrations are fairly good and the writing is good, if a bit turgid and slightly preachy in spots. The book could have been 50 pages shorter or so and made the same points.

The issue is not that China will become the world's major military power. That is unlikely. What is happening is the immense growth of the Chinese economy allows a huge expansion in military capability, and the Chinese are setting up a system that will push back American aircraft carrier task forces to more than 1,500 km offshore, negating their usefulness. Chinese development of anti-ship ballistic missiles, medium and long-range cruise missiles and other technologies is effectively negating US naval power. The book argues that we need to vastly increase the combat range of naval aircraft, and do much more with very long range systems, because the bases we have in the area are quite vulnerable. However good our defense is, an American aircraft carrier task force, if attacked by say 200 fast anti-ship missiles is going to take some damage. He argues that more and smaller ships with more missiles would be valuable. He also states at the end that the Pacific is no longer a naval theater but has become on of air and space.
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Format: Hardcover
There is a lot of very interesting material in this book, all of which the author claims is open source. He makes a fair argument against both off-shore balancing/blockade and Air Sea Battle. His major point is that the technological revolution of guided missiles currently favors land powers versus expeditionary forces. Most of US naval aircraft have too short of a range and would need to bring the carriers within range of such missiles. He suggests more long range bombers, empowering front-line states, autonomous cheap reconnaissance drones as a way to maintain command and control in times of war, abrogating the Intermediate -range Nuclear Forces treaty and of attacking leadership nodes. He stops short of suggesting that the logical conclusion of the technological revolutions will be that cheap missiles, autonomous mines, delivered from all points, satellites, planes, subs, fishing boats , containers ships, trucks, floating debris islands, directed by myriad cheap drones, micro-satellites and ultra long-range radars, will make all high value targets away from land based defense very vulnerable. The US Navy will be home ported during the initial phase of the battle till the missile and air forces determine how the battle for space surveillance and production capacity is settled. Whichever side can maintain production of satellites, launchers and missile longest will have the edge. The party that believes it is on the losing side of the equation will have an incentive to escalate to the nuclear threshold. Knowing that the game will likely end with the threat of nuclear escalation, the options are either to try to launch a possibly suicidal pre-emptive first strike to take out most of the opposing nuclear arsenal or to avoid initiation of hostilities.
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This work provides historical context for the development of US counterforce doctrine and weaponry, and why that is inadequate to the threat presented by the massive Chinese naval and ground-based buildup. Presents detailed and achievable recommendations for basing and utilization of US forces.
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An alarming bit of realism all Americans must be prepared to counter if America is to survive for generations to come. Vividly points out the risks of holding onto out moded WWII era defense policies, practices and strategies.
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A very disciplined, cogent and one dimensional view of how America should stamp on China's face forever.
A bible, if you will, of anglo saxon domination upon the earth and how to maintain it.

What it does not discuss however is the likely affect such a conflict is likely to have on the Domestic front.

Looking at the Trump rallies on TV makes you realise just how polarised U.S society has become.
A quick run over stats freely available on google and we see in America close to a hundred million people living in poverty and on food stamps, five in every ten pregnancies end in Abortion, and the end of the American dream for millions of disenfranchised people who have seen the 1% pull the ladder up behind them

Tens of Millions of Americans are overworked, underpaid and trapped in a cycle of debt and poverty that they can never escape from.

Now, imagine, for example, that a phalanx of Chinese supersonic anti ship missiles have just hit the USS John C Stennis aircraft carrier, remember the Chinese have been designing and building their weaponry these past thirty years with the specific design tenet of sinking American ships.

The sight of an American carrier up-ended sinking and in flames while its compliment of five thousands sailors drown and burn alive in its sinking hull will likely have a profound affect on the mothers and fathers of middle America as it slowly dawns on them their children are being sacrificed on the alter of their leaders vanities just so Filipino taxi drivers and Vietnamese fisherman can make a point to the Chinese

Self righteous and deluded so called 'intellectuals' like the author of this book would continue to enslave the sons and daughters of America for all eternity just to 'keep the Chinese down'

War with China will end badly for America, but not like how you think.
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