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Gustav Mahler (Composer), Michael Tilson Thomas (Conductor), Michelle DeYoung (Performer), San Francisco Symphony Orchestra (Orchestra)
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listen  1. Symphony No. 3 in D minor: I. Part I: Kräftig, entschieden36:16Album Only
listen  2. Symphony No. 3 in D minor: II. Part II: Tempo di menuetto. Sehr mässig10:10Album Only
listen  3. Symphony No. 3 in D minor: Part II: III. Comodo. Scherzando. Ohne Hast18:58Album Only


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listen  1. Symphony No. 3 in D minor: IV. Part II: Sehr langsam. Misterioso10:25Album Only
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listen  3. Symphony No. 3 in D minor: Part II: VI. Langsam. Ruhevoll. Empfunden26:31Album Only
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On this CD:
  1. Symphony No. 3 in D minor
    Composed by Gustav Mahler
    Performed by San Francisco Symphony Orchestra
    with Michelle DeYoung
    Conducted by Michael Tilson Thomas

  2. Kindertotenlieder, song cycle for voice & piano (or orchestra)
    Composed by Gustav Mahler
    Performed by San Francisco Symphony Orchestra
    with Michelle DeYoung
    Conducted by Michael Tilson Thomas


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3.0 out of 5 stars Good, but by no means great Mahler, November 10, 2006
Michael Tilson Thomas is a phenomenal music director. He inherited the San Francisco Symphony in 1995 and has, since then, turned the band, which was already quite accomplished under Herbert Blomstedt's tutelage, into a world class ensemble in the truest since. Despite its few (but glaring) weakness - bad flutes and violins that tend towards thinness - the San Francisco Symphony boasts consistently fine playing and musically intelligent contributions from the soloists - droll clarinets, boisterous bassoons, a horn section second to none, beautiful lower strings, and rich, big toned lower brass. Listening to this ensemble - an ensemble in the truest sense of the word - is always a joy. Thus, when one hears a performance like this, which, despite first class playing, falls short of being a success, the blame clearly lies at the hands of the conductor.

Objectively looking at Michael Tilson Thomas's ongoing Mahler cycle has been increasingly difficult for me mainly because, the more familiar I become with Thomas's conducting style, the more egregious the apparent faults become. Thomas's penchant for rubato and mannered stylization started off as an interesting, if unnecessary, detail in the 6th and 1st symphonies. It became a bit more problematic in the 2rd. And finally, it became irritatingly obnoxious in the 7th and 5th symphonies. Thomas's insistence on smothering his interpretations with a thick coat of decorative frosting and fussy, mannered detail leaves a fluffy, decadent, at times even saccharine aftertaste which belies the often overwhelmingly high-level of musical nourishment these recordings offer. Indeed, nearly every other musical choice Thomas makes is a good one - it's just a shame he cannot discern between the good and bad.

There is really only one real high point to this release - the second movement - which is nearly perfect. Although a tad too precious for my tastes, the movement possesses all the correct tempo changes, perfectly balanced ensemble, and the correct amount of nimble buoyancy. Everywhere else, Thomas misses the mark.

The main problem with the first movement is epitomized by Thomas's handling of the "summer storm" outburst. Where Mahler asks for vulgar, Thomas responds with a perfectly balanced, overly polite disintegration that is hardly earth shattering. Overall, the dichotomy between the two marches is missing; the minor march lacks the craggy darkness and grotesqueries while the major march lacks the sense of awakening and rebirth. And although the contributions from the players are wonderful - Mark H. Lawerence's solo is like a dream - the movement lacks in the emotional extremes so necessary for this movements success. Thomas does shape the transitions between the two marches effectively and many beautiful moments abound throughout the movement, but on the whole, Thomas takes too much time to say what he has to say. As a direct comparison, listen to Bernstein's recording which finds the conductor leading a determinedly forward moving movement. For all the criticism Bernstein receives as an overly emotional conductor, his conception of this movement is quite controlled, focused, and flowing as compared to Thomas's meandering stroll through the music's various episodes.

The scherzo proper goes well enough. The winds have character, the horns capture the earthy quality of the score, and the strings really dig into their parts. And then there's the trio, which is excruciatingly slow, again, despite wonderful playing from the posthorn and other soloists. At the return of the trio, it seems Thomas is going even slower than before, dragging the music almost to the breaking point before the coda. However, the coda goes well enough (although more tam tam would have been nice) with the proper amount of pomp and circumstance.

The two vocal movements run smoothly but lack any real character. Michelle DeYoung is usually a vocally magnificent soloist, but here her singing seems overly reserved and calculated; the movement as a whole sounds chillingly cool. Her wide vibrato does not always suite the music well either. The chorus, particularly the Pacific Boys Choir, sings faithfully in the fifth movement, however, again, the humanity Mahler is so desperately trying to represent is somehow conspicuously absent from the reading. It sounds calculated, micro-managed, and lacks the necessary transcendence. However, the top to bottom clarity of texture is quite extraordinary - the fact that the bassoons are perfectly audible during the large brass swells at the close of the fifth movement really says something about Thomas's sense of orchestral balance.

The finale features wonderful contributions from the strings, which add a great deal of warmth to this otherwise cooler account of the symphony. Thomas stretches the music to the breaking point several times, and even though Tempo I is quite flowing and well paced, the movement as a whole still feels long. Thomas seems to climax too soon, resulting in an episodic finale that doesn't quite build towards the final passages as others do - Ricardo Chailly's Royal Concertgebouw 3rd is a fantastic example of a well-balanced architectural finale that concludes with tremendous level of satisfaction. In Thomas's hands, the final passages, as powerful as they are here, are so painfully slow - it feels as if Thomas has purchased gravitas (or at least his idea of gravitas) at the expense of taste. Beautiful, hair-raising moments abound in this finale, but on the whole, it never really captures the brilliant architecture of the music. Chailly's architectural grasp, on the other hand, is astounding. His recording, along with Bernstein's legendary New York Philharmonic recordings, are reference.

On a side note, I think it is important to discuss the nature of the sound of the San Francisco Symphony in these recordings. The winds are quite lively, playful, and at times even coquettish. The brass is rich, powerful, but never overbearing. The percussion, while excellent as a section, has never been captured faithfully by the engineers - only in forte does the timpani cut through the texture with any real acuity. The strings are rich, plush and bright. Again, the orchestra itself really is something, and, as far as orchestral perfection goes, the San Francisco Symphony delivers a near perfect performance, despite its bright sheen.

Overall, Michael Tilson Thomas is quite well versed in Mahler and there is, despite all the shortcomings, a profundity of incite here. The playing is top notch, the contributions from the soloists are wonderful, and many of Thomas choices are good. However, his insistence on micro-managing every aspect of the score prevents his orchestra from creating a true idiomatic Mahler sound. The first movement lacks the necessary dichotomy between the marches and, thus, the tension falls flat. Thomas's tight grip keeps the forth and fifth movement stubbornly earthbound. And the architecture of the finale is as odd with Thomas's overly expressive account. It is frustrating, really, when everything is perfect on paper but fails in reality. This most expansive and disparate of Mahler symphonies needs a conductor who can pull together the sprawling universe of Mahler's sound world and instill cohesion and apply structure. Here, Thomas fails.

The kindertotenleider fares no better. A tepid, lifeless contribution from the orchestra is met with dry-eyed singing from Michelle DeYoung. Disappointing.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Lovely, yes, but too polite by half, February 7, 2009
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This is civilized Mahler playing that is so polished, one forgets the universal significance and all-embracing cosmos that is the Third Sym. No stomrs break the surface calm; no passions run unchecked. In Nietzsche's declamatory mourning over human suffering, Michelle DeYoung could be saying a prayer for a dead canary. I'm grateful that the finale is taken as a true Adagio, and Tilson Thomas knows how to hold together the slow unfolding of the aching melody, but there's no real catharsis, because nobody seems emotionally involved. The best moments come in the bucolic chirping of the Wunderhorn song in the third movement, although these are deprived of bite and tang.

In certain quarters Tilson Thomas's Mahler readiings pass for the real thing, and they can be when he isn't given over to civilized noodling. He can manage large forces well, his handling of the melodic line is always supple, and his sense of rubato fits the style Mahler writes in. But for God's sakes, when does MTT ever press the metal to the floor? Mahler's idiom includes volcanic eruptions and vulgar, untrammelled joy that doesn't fit into Tilson Thomas's neatly ordered parlor. I kept wanting to crack the whip over him.

Fanfare magazine's Mahler expert never fails to praise this ongoing Mahler cycle from San Francisco to the skies, and it's a shame, because the externals that seem to impress so many critics -- the lovely execution, demonstration-quality sound, and overall polish -- are piffle when the heart of the music feels so cold and detached. The filler is a well-sung Kindertotenlider by DeYoung in which the conductor's lack of involvement, much less true grief, is teeth-grinding.
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5.0 out of 5 stars what i have longed to hear, August 26, 2005
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having heard many recordings and the berlin philharmonic play this under claudio abbado, i know what i want to hear in this piece. hearing all those other performances, i find passages that i want different. this recording seemed to fill in all the holes that other recordings had and then some. the sound on this disc is much more consistent with the SFSO recording of Mahler's 1st and sounds dramatically different than their recording of Mahler's 2nd. the playing throughout, as usual with the SFSO, is superb. while they do not change color and character as swiftly as the Royal Concertgebouw under Chailly, i feel that they have a better overall interpretation of the symphony's mood. the whole orchestra seems to understand, better than any other recording i have heard, what their individual roles are in the piece. my only problem with the disc is the advertising. the SFSO webpage and the liner itself states that this is a 5.1 SACD. it is not, as all the other SFSO SACDs. it is a 5.0 SACD, lacking a low-frequency channel. i hihgly recomend this recording and any other by the SFSO under MTT.
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