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5 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
Round bars suck - wish I bought another Thule roof rack, October 3, 2009
This review is from: Yakima RoundBars Roof Rack Cross Bars (58-Inches) (Sports)
I consider the round Yakima bars to be the #1 downside of Yakima's roof rack design. The square Thule bars meant my Thule rack with 2 or 3 bike carriers made a single solid and stable unit that was easy to handle when I lifted it on or off the car. Not so with round bars. It's harder to focus on not scratching the car roof when I lift it into place because I also have to focus on keeping it from twisting and pivoting at each joint like some kind of giant geometric puzzle. This is true with either 2 or 3 bike carriers firmly attached (a Viper, a Copperhead and a King Cobra). I read round bars are even more of an issue if you get a canoe carrier, where the front and back canoe carriers are independent of each other and can pivot on the round bar as you try to load a kayak or canoe.
Also the Yakima end caps seem to be made of a much softer plastic than the Thule end caps. Very very minor issue, but my end caps already look beat up like crap after just one summer of use, just from setting the rack down and picking it up again off the concrete on my garage floor or my driveway a dozen times or so.
Keep in mind that if you leave the roof rack on your car all the time, the round bars may not be an issue for you. Because I care about saving gas, carbon emissions etc, I put the roof rack on my car when I'm going to haul bikes then take it off again when I'm done. This was not a big deal when I used a Thule rack. My car (a Camry hybrid) averages 35-39 mpg unless it's really cold out. When I've left the rack on for a whole tank of gas such as long out-of-state trips, an empty bike rack takes about 4 mpg off my gas mileage (figure 10-15%) while a fully loaded rack with one-to-three bikes driving on the interstate at 65-75mph can take off a good 6-8 mpg (figure 20-25% at highway/interstate speeds - the faster you drive, the more drag cuts into your gas mileage). Before I bought my new rack I looked long and hard online at other posts on how it affects gas mileage, and these % seem pretty consistent with other people's cars.
I used a Thule rack system to carry bikes on my cars from 1994 til 2007. After 14 years the Thule cross bars had lots of cracks in the plastic so you could see the steel underneath. When I bought a new car in 2007 I decided it was time to get a new bike rack. Any roof rack (that isn't permanently/factory mounted) inevitably ends up scratching the finish on your car roof somewhat and I wanted to minimize this. I read lots of online reviews and went with Yakima this time, thinking it might fit my car better since more rounded roof designs on many newer cars means the front and back feet of the rack won't necessarily both be at 90° angles to the bike carriers. And the round Yakima bars do look a little sleeker. After just a few months using my new Yakima rack I really wish I bought another Thule rack. Instead of fewer scratches, I have as much scratches on my roof from the Yakima rack over the past summer as I got from my Thule rack in over a decade.
While the Q-Towers do seem to fit my roof very well, I have not yet figured out exactly what part of the Yakima clips or Q-towers is scratching the roof of my car. When I do, hopefully I will be able to do something to cover the sharp edges. It's not a single spot on the clip, because several times I got these sets of parallel scratches almost like you'd picture from cat's claws (and in this case, that would be a very big cat!).
Also the Yakima Q-towers have these clear gel-like pads that protect the roof of the car, and unfortunately at least one always seems to want to come loose and fall off when I have the rack stored in my garage. I never had this problem with the black pads on my old Thule towers which were firmly and permanently attached to the feet.
The Yakima clips specific to my car: There is thick adhesive black "tape" which you put over the feet of the clips. This is already coming off the clips only a few months after I put it on. By contrast, the ends of the clips on my Thule roof rack were dipped in something like heavy vinyl, and it did not come loose at all after more than ten years. What a contrast!
Put it all together, and I'm lifting this bike rack over the top of my car trying to simultaneously 1) watch to make sure the clear protective gel pad isn't falling off one of the feet, 2) keep the assembled rack from suddenly twisting and pivoting in my hands so one foot suddenly hits the roof, 3) watch to see if all 4 of the Q-clips are still spread the same (so most of the weight isn't pressing on one when I put it down), all while I try to 4) put it down gently in the right position so it won't slide and scratch. It's a coordination challenge even on a good day. These things just weren't such a problem with my Thule rack.
Tip for any roof rack from a long-time owner - use a clean damp towel to clean the pads and clean the places on your roof the pads will contact EVERY time you put the rack on your car. Any grit that gets in between the rack and roof will wear your finish. I'm still looking for some kind of clear plastic decal I can stick in the four appropriate spots on the roof of my car to protect it (I started looking when I first got the new rack and by now it's already a little late...)
If you plan to take the rack on and off your car frequently, also carefully consider the weight of each component you add. Some of the "better" and most expensive bike carriers are also the heaviest, so something like the Boa for a 3rd bike could make the rack a lot lighter and easier to handle. The bike carriers can vary from 4 or 5 lbs all the way up to 14 or 15 lbs each.
In general, the Yakima roof rack products seem to be good quality and well-built. I would be very happy with the Viper, Copperhead and King Cobra bike carriers if I put them on a Thule square bars and Thule towers. I had the Copperhead on my old Thule rack for years. To be fair, I think the new towers and carriers today are heavier than the old ones (whether you buy Thule or Yakima), plus my new Camry is a wider car than the Saturn SL2 or Toyota Corolla I had before. Both these things may contribute to added difficulties in gently and easily lifting the rack on and off the top of the car. However I do not think either the weight of the rack or the width of the car would be an issue by themselves if not for the fact that the Yakima rack always inevitably pivots and twists in my hands as I'm lifting it into place plus the protective pads that want to fall off. Keep in mind that I work out every morning (including over 40 pushups) and on occasion handle a shovel in the yard for 6-8 hours with hardly any breaks, so if you're not physically fit you'll be even more likely to scratch your car roof lifting the whole rack on and off as a single unit. There's a lot to be said for trunk racks if you don't have a lot of upper body strength and want to take the rack on and off your car a lot.
I was also very intrigued by the Atoc Draftmaster Sportflite, which has the bikes in the same front-to-back position as a roof rack (better for mileage than trunk racks which have the bikes sideways to the wind), but Draftmaster puts the bikes where they're easier to reach. Unlike most Draftmaster racks, the Sportflite would not require me to put a hitch on my sedan. However a roof rack has the advantage that I can carry all sorts of other large items on my car roof attached with bungi cords. Some reviewers also mentioned the Draftmaster Sportflite's two supporting arms put enough weight on the trunks of sedans it can sometimes make two indentations. And a body shop I asked knew of no easy way to add a reinforcing bar inside a sedan trunk without the heat from welding weakening the surrounding meta). With hindsight, even if I did get a couple indentations in my trunk, they might not be any more noticeable than the scratches I get with the Yakima roof rack. In your case a Draftmaster might be worth a look.
Hope this helps you learn from my experience.
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