grainy picture Just got the blue ray player today and hooked up to sony 1080p 46" flat screen. Using hdmi cable - see grainy picture on screen. Spent several hours adjusting the setting to ensure 1080p output and input - but not much improvement on a blue ray disk (night at the museum). Anyone else have this problem or can recommend a fix? thx,
i think the grainy picture is normal...unless it is too grainy that it is unbearable to watch...i have a ps3 and played the departed blu-ray and there are some grainy pics...i guess its normal. its not too terrible though. I think hd-dvd has the same issue because i use the xbox 360 for hd movies and it is also somewhat grainy. i have a sony 46 inch xbr 3 tv and it displays the movies in 1080p.
I have to disagree with those stating that the films were shot with grain and so you see the grain. Yes, there are a very few select titles out there that are shot with grain for dramatic effect, but no director wants their film to look noisy with dots, that's why studios tote along $100k+ of lighting equipment for each shot, so that they don't have to use higher ISO settings in their camera and hence add more grain.
The grain that I experiences on a demo setup at Costco with a Sony BDP-S301 and a 1080p LCD seem disgusting for the shots that were moving. By freezing the frames where no camera movement occurs, everything looks perfect and crisp, as expected. As soon as the entire shot pans to the side, the grain magically appears. If this were due to high ISO, then the grain would appear in all shots, moving and still, and primarily appear in the dark, under-lit areas, however I'm seeing very pronounced grain on the highly lit actor faces as well.
This strongly suggests that the grain was added by some process other than the original film. There have been some people who swear that the Sony Player with "Tru-Cinema" output makes a huge difference. (Some Sony players do not come with the Tru-Cinema chip.) Personally, I think that the very sharp noise pixels we are seeing are part of the encoding or decoding process that in employed by the Blu-Ray technique. Compared to a DVD, the amount of data having to stream through a processor AND be decoded AND decoded with security Sony Copyright protection (extra data) is huge and requires a lot of processing power. Imagine trying to load a 30 MB photo onto your PC, I doubt it could do it in 1 second. (Estimated at 30 frames per second x 1 MB jpg picture = 30 MB)
The only other suggestion is to go test this out for yourself with a Blu-Ray player or HD-DVD player before you buy. Hopefully the problem is related to the player processor limitations and not the Blu-ray encoding process. In the interim, you can try turning down the sharpness setting on your projector/plasme/lcd/dlp display device to help mask the very pronounced noise. If the problem is in the originally encoded disc, then a Blu-ray player than can detect panning shots could employ a moving average to greatly reduce the grain at the cost of a little sharpness, although I have not heard of one with this.
In the end, if you enjoy watching the film in High Defintion, that is truly what matters in the end. Engineers like myself always want it to be better, hence we gripe a lot about little things.
Seeing as most of the films offered in both BR and HDDVD use the exact same video transfer to author discs, the graininess will be identical in all players. Some movies are grainy because they are shot on film, which has and shows grain by it's very nature.
I have had a Blu-ray S300 hooked up to a Sony 46XBR4 and it's an incredibly fantastic picture. What movie were you trying? I can't imagine anything being grainy if it was a Blu-ray (other than the movie "300" or the opening and in-between sequences in "Phantom of the Opera"). As a matter of fact, though HD-DVD and Blu-ray have similar pictures, I find the Blu-ray even better because of the 24p feature. Combined with the XBR4's Motion Enhacer gives the films an almost 3-dimensional feel (even for some standard DVDs!). I mean I really feel I am right there during the filming sometimes.
I also have a Toshiba A20 HD-DVD player that I bought recently but I am very close to returning it because, while it does have an excellent picture, I am just not happy with several things. It doesn't get as deeply realistic with my XBR4's Motion Enhancer because the A20 doesn't have the 24p feature, and now I really desire it. (Shortly after I ordered it, I saw that the Toshiba A30 is coming out with this feature.) There is a download 2.5 for the A20 that is supposed to enhance it to 24p but initial tests I've read in online forums say that it has bugs, including making voice sync go off during playing of non-HD-DVD discs. That whole downloading thing to me is a pain when I consider that the Blu-ray already has it built in. I am not a tech person and feel when I pay this much money, the work should already be built-in. It makes me feel that the HD-DVD player is something I will only use to play exclusive titles to HD-DVD and nothing else, while the Blu-ray is great at playing Blu-rays and standard DVDs (an incredible upconversion of regulars DVDs). Plus I have been reading about all the trouble with the playability of HD-DVD combo discs, something I haven't found with Blu-ray stand-alone discs, is making me consider sending the Toshiba back since I am still within my 30-day period. I haven't been ecstatic with the sound, either. Maybe it is just me, but I think the Blu-ray Dolby Digital 5.1 comes across better for some reason (again, I am not a tech person, can only base it upon my hearing experience with both players).
I wanted the HD-DVD because of the availability of some titles only on HD-DVD to balance out my Sony Blu-ray's titles (and, honestly, to give both formats an equal try), but in the long run I think I can be happy with the Blu-ray alone and wait for when the battle is won. I truly believe with all my heart that with the headaches of dowloading, plus the other things, that if a victor will ever emerge from all this battling, Blu-ray is going to be it. Again, these are my observations, from my gut and heart, about both formats.
Again, I haven't returned the Toshiba yet and am making more tests in hopes of liking it more, but since I've read that Warner Bros. is coming out with titles that were previously only on HD-DVD and will be doing them in Blu-ray, somehow I just know one only needs one player and to me the best is going to be the Blu-ray.
Or, to put it in terms like Mr. Kerr:
Blu-ray: The winner HD-DVD: Well, thanks for playing.
I have an odd issue. I work in a retail store and am incharge of their Electronics department. I personally own a PS3 and have it hooke dup to my Magnavox and the picture is astounding. Ive only seen problems when I watch a movie that was remastered to Blu-Ray as not looking too amazing. That is not my problem. My problem is that our Blu-Ray player at my store plays any animated movie with amazing clarity, no graininess, nothing. Just clear amazing Picture. But if i put in a Blu-Ray movie that has any real people and setting in it, it is speckled beyond belief. Bad enoughw here I would rather have a standard dvd player hooked up. I originally thought it was the player so i swapped it with a newer model and had the same issue, so then i thought it was the cables, so i swapped those out, same issue. I then thought maybe it was the splitter that sends the signal to my 20 hd tv's and hooked it up to just one player, same problem. Even on the movie Bolt, the movie looks amazing, but there is a preview for Bedtime stories at the beginning. Its grainy. I can't for the life of me figure out whats going on. any tips that would help me play a movie for the customers that isnt involving talking animals?
HD is coming to and end soon.All the studios have decided to go with the Blue ray format.You can already see the HD players and movies dropping in price knowing that the death of this format is on it's way.
i have both the sony blu ray s300 and the toshiba hd-a30 and have noticed that both formats have a graininess to themwhen viewing the film 300 its obviously the way the movie was shot. so far tho both pictures seem near identical . i will side with blu ray in the long run tho. its a more advanced platform with way more future capabilities .that and my toshiba froze up and gave me a code .tried again same thing,took the disc out ...half a faint finger print on the edge wiped it off and it worked fine. wayyyy to sensitive for my taste.....
So I recently purchased a 58 inch Panasonic 1080P plasma screen.... Whoa! Eye popping!! Fabulous picture, resolution, color....HD cable for the first time.....WOW!!
Just hooked up a Samsung HDP 1400 Blue Ray - to max out the 1080p plasma screen - using HDMI cable. Have seen two movies so far - "300" and "Babel". Both had tons of grainey images, especially "300". Got to see lots of wrinkles on Brad Pitt's face in "Babel" that I'd never imagined with incredible clarity.
Sitting back about 12 feet away........still tons of "grainey"ness. I've heard that this may be do to the transfer of film to blue ray HD on certain movies, which should not be there with movies filmed in HD to begin with. I've not changed any factory settings on either the Panasonic plasma TV or the Samsung Blue Ray player.
So, not sure that this is something with Blue Ray, with Samsung's player, with the panasonic, or with the 1080p. I'm going to play some other movies and keep my fingers crossed that it gets better.
Any thoughts out there or recommendations about this?
HD is coming to a end my friends. I have both blu ray and hd dvd player and I lost alot of money on HD. I have a source that works along side of HD and the movie production company's are all going to blu ray. He told me I would atleast have a great upconverter dvd player. A**H*LE I am mad as hell spending $500.00 for the player and who knows how much on the hd movies. So if anyone is thinking of which one to buy go with BLU-RAY