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38 of 42 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Comments by a "Fellow Traveler on the Journey", November 10, 2009
In the summer of 1962, I was a 19 year old Evangelical/Fundamentalist who spent a week at L'Abri, the Presbyterian Mission in the Swiss Alps that was founded and led by Frank Schaeffer's parents -- Francis and Edith Schaeffer. At that time Frank was a kid who -- in spite of an atrophied leg as a byproduct of a bout with polio -- demonstrated guts and determination in the pickup football games he relished playing with and against much older competitors such as me and my traveling companions.
In 1962 I studied the Bible and had theological discussions with Frank's father Francis, and his mother Edith, and didn't think to ask young Frank's views on such matters.
In 2009 I am a 67 year-old Presbyterian Church (USA) minister, who finds himself resonating more strongly with Frank's views of life and matters of faith, than with the harsh Fundamentalism that was espoused by Frank's parents (and mine). Thus I have found his books "Crazy for God," and "Patience with God" to be inspirational manifestos which reflect the human capacity to speak the truth in love regarding the limitations of our "rearing," and to promote what are hopefully healthier, and more gracious images of faith and life. I admire Frank's ability to express profound love for his parents, while acknowledging their shortcomings when it came to their lack of attention to his own education and development.
"Patience with God" breaks new ground in pointing out that the "new atheism" represents every bit as much of a tendency to be "fundamentalist" as any restrictive religious point of view. More importantly, it provides insights into ways Frank has found God, faith, family, friends, and love to be enduring necessities for healthy human living in the midst of attempts to label such things as "unnecessary" in an enlightened age.
One doesn't have to agree with everything that Schaeffer says. I certainly don't. But to let one's discomfort with some of his exposes or ideas keep one from celebrating the vast reach of this man's perspectives on religion, art, literature, philosophy, relationships, et al, is to miss the gifts Frank has to share.
The Rev. Dr. William D. Peterson, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.
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49 of 66 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A Validation of A Kinder Christian Faith, October 16, 2009
Dear Frank:
I read your book. I think it is important that you know my immediate reaction. It is more important than my academic one.
I devoured this book. It has been so long since I found reading material that hit my soul as this did. Your thoughts and observations have rattled around inside me in an incoherent fashion for years. Your book gave them structure and voice.
But I think you would be more interested in what happened when I tried to write you an e-mail in response to your book. What a torment it is to the "detached scholar" to be set in turmoil by a mere book!
Attempt One: Started writing a detached review of your book. By paragraph three I was writing about myself. Delete.
Attempt Two: Decided to write a paragraph about myself to get it out of my system before reviewing your book. One hour later I have a biography, again about myself. Delete.
Attempt Three: Sat in front of an empty screen trying to write. Decided not to. It would end up like attempt two. Delete
Rest and Reflection: Gave manuscript to wife to read. Wife becomes hopelessly absorbed. Still is. (My wife Gwen is Roland Bainton's granddaughter)
More rest and reflection.
Attempt Four: Decided to write a response in a Word document. I can edit it, delete my personal biography crap, and be the nice, proper scholar Miami University trained me to be. Seven pages later, once again, primarily about me, I save it to my "Personal-Crap-No-One-Will-Ever-See-File.
More Rest and Reflection. Damn you Schaeffer!
And now, my blurb...or a part of it. I had to clear my mind and figure out what was going on. I originally thought that your book awakened some kind of slumbering egomaniac in me. This has never happened before. Usually when I review a book (for publication), it is a process that I completely control. Let's say its a book on the collapse of the bronze age or on Pompeii or church history or a textbook on world history. I review it, categorize its strengths and weakness, compare it to existing literature, assess its accessibility to a variety of students types, look at the resources assembled for its bibliography, judge the author's bias, and make a recommendation: to buy or not to buy (or assign). I am the detached voice. Invisible. You sure screwed up that process.
What you did, Frank, is validate a part of my life I wanted desperately to forget. The pain, the struggle, the embarrassment, the utter desperation of being without a spiritual country. I saw myself. Your book was a mirror. Whether you are talking about atheists (I think you are really speaking about fundamentalists in a disarming way: targeting them by talking about something else: a parable if there ever was one!)or your own past, or the limitation of fundamentalist intellectual honesty, it comes around to the personal. This book is essentially my journey too. It is, in another form, the journey of a multitude of wounded Christians who have been divorced from the mystical, the allegorical, and the real faith for a long time. You gave us voice. You validated our experiences. We're OK, and not damned or compromised or not dedicated to Christ enough.
In other words, your narrative opens us up. I can talk and write about myself because you have. You have started a conversation. One that has been needed for a long, long time. And conversations make us want to reply. You talk intently about your experiences. We, the readers want share ours. But we can only do this because you shared first. So thanks.
John F. DeFelice
Associate Professor of History
University of Maine at Presque ISle
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46 of 63 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Not very convincing rant against atheism, fundamentalism, November 13, 2009
Frank Schaeffer won deserved acclaim for his enchanting semi-autobiographical novel "Portofino" in which he described growing up in Switzerland in a strict, Christian fundamentalist household. In 2007, he followed up with the autobiographical "Crazy for God" which describes how he eventually broke with his evangelist father and the Christian right. Now, in "Patience With God," Schaeffer once again mines what must by now be a rapidly-depleting seam of childhood memories and adult experiences to deliver his personal brand of religion and philosophy.
The first section of this book consists of a polemic against the so-called "New Atheism," particularly TV host Bill Maher's movie "Religulous" and the works of authors Richard Dawkins, Richard Rorty, Daniel Dennett and Christopher Hitchens.
This is followed by a series of chapters attacking Christian fundamentalism in which the main targets are celebrity pastor Rick Warren and the authors of the "Left Behind" series. Finally, Schaeffer indulges in some personal reflections about his own relationship with God, whose presence in his life he perceives through loving relationships with his infant granddaughter Lucy, his son and his wife.
To Schaeffer, atheism and fundamentalism are two sides of the same coin. Both, he argues are based on intolerance and offer simplistic answers to complex questions. While this may be true, coupling atheists and Christian fundamentalists is a strange decision. Unlike Christian fundamentalism, atheism is not a mass movement and most of the authors Schaeffer attacks so zealously are hardly known in the United States. It's not as if atheism has become the dominant force in a major political party or atheists are trying to impose a political agenda on the rest of us.
Did Schaeffer imagine he had to attack a straw man of "New Atheism," as represented by a few obscure academics, to make his subsequent attacks on Christian fundamentalism more palatable to his readers? What exactly is Schaeffer's problem with atheists and agnostics, millions of whom lead perfectly ethical, rewarding and useful lives and love their families and their countries just as much as he does? "My beef with the New Atheists and with religious fundamentalists," he writes, "is that their ideas just don't seem to be aesthetically pleasing or imbued with the poetry that I experience in real life." Really? How does he know what poetry the rest of us may or may not experience?
Schaeffer has a curiously paternalistic attitude at times. He decries America as "a nation of not terribly bright children who essentially have a collective learning disability" and dismisses science as "always partly yesterday's news" that will not stand the test of time. In contrast, "beauty and love expressed in art, poetry and religion are among the things that will last," he declares.
Does Schaeffer discern no beauty in the equation e=mc squared or Newton's laws of motion? Can he see no wonder in Hubble's description of an expanding universe and the incredible images of the Hubble telescope? Does he see no beauty in the double helix and no wonder in the extraordinary intellectual voyage that uncovered its secrets? One could, if one chose to, see God in all these marvelous things.
The book is also marred by a gratuitous and ugly attack on Israel, which has incurred Schaeffer's wrath because it is supported by many of the Christian evangelicals he now so strongly despises.
Schaeffer writes movingly and with feeling about his relationship with his infant grandchild and claims to discern the divine in her innocent gaze. But that is simply his extrapolation - a product of his particular life experiences and the way his beliefs have developed. One should not dismiss such feelings - but neither should one belittle other grandparents who cradle their grandchildren with equal love and devotion - and yet do not connect their own deep feelings with God.
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