What are your predictions? + Release date for Clockwork Prince?


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Initial post: Sep 4, 2010 5:37:06 PM PDT
X. Wu says:
Does anyone know what the release date for Clockwork Prince is?

And what are your predictions for the series? Who will Tessa end up with? What's Will's dark secret? What direction would you want the series to go to?

Also, for some reason, I had some weird feeling Tessa was going to end up with Gabriel...but I was really tired and downed a lot of coffee and tea, so I don't think it means much.

Posted on Sep 4, 2010 11:28:30 PM PDT
No idea when the release date is or what's up with Will, but I *hope* Tessa ends up with Jem. And I'd really love it if Nate died, torn to shreds by the automaton army. Or maybe the demon energies in the...the box the Nephilim store it in (the one that he stole--it's 2:30 in the morning and I can't remember the name just now) will take him over?

Why do I not remember this Gabriel fellow? That can't be good--time to reread the book.

Posted on Sep 5, 2010 1:31:47 AM PDT
Nina says:
The release date for Clockwork Prince is 09/01/2011 and Clockwork Princess is 12/1/2012.

I want her to end up with Will though my hopes are slim. I like Jem but I always feel for the emotional wrecks^^
I don't know what's wrong with Will though. At first I thought it was just that he did something he could forgive himself for but after the epiloughe I'm sure there has to be something more pressing. Some real thread or something. His visit to Magnus definitely has something to do with the scene on the roof.

I like Gabriel :) I don't know why but I like him and I really hope his role will be a little bigger in the following books.

Posted on Sep 5, 2010 7:45:00 PM PDT
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Kale says:
I think Tessa will end up with Will, as far as we know he's the heir to the Herondale line and well some one has to father the next generation so that we can have Jace in the present. I am not entirely convinced that Tessa is a warlock. I think Sophie and Jem may end up together but I hate how she treated Thomas, I also didn't like how Will treated him as well, his death seems tragic to me, very lonely, for such a good person. Sophie doesn't deserve her infatuation, because she wasted the man that truely saw her beauty. I am not sure Jem makes it. I do not recall any Castiars in the MI books, but I have not checked either, I also am not sure what or how his treatments would affect any children he may have. Could be interesting though.

I personally would like to read more about Jessie. There is something interesting about her denial and possible exceptance of what and who she is. Not being a shadowhunter is what her parents wanted for her, but is that really what she wants. She says she wants the mundane life with a mundie man, but the minute Nate turned coward she was turned off. Jessie wants a man who can take care of her, and only a shadowhunter would be strong enough to do that. A mundie might be brave but she will always be more powerful than him. And plus I think she could be fierce if she excepted her shadowhunter self.

As fr Wills secret, I think he somehow killed or hurt his sister/friend when he was 12. I don't think it was really told what his mother was,it sounded like she was human, but there's probably a twist. So I am waiting to see how that thread continues. But I am sure he's in love with Tessa, and shes the reason he is seeking help for whatever is wrong with him. I am hoping to hear more about his parents maybe meet them find out what happened to them in the next installment.

Posted on Sep 6, 2010 8:15:28 AM PDT
Corey Lamb says:
I really hope that she ends up with Will, but then of course there's a little bit of me that wants her to end up with Gabriel, just because I hope he gets important, and I really like him.

Considering Will, I think he ahd something to do with someone around him dying-maybe due to the demon box thing that his parents kept. I always feel for him-I reallydo love him. No matter how hard he tries to push Tessa away.
I'm really glad that she got that he was pushing her away, and didn't go into some depression-induced emo behavior like most heroines do (i.e. "why am I not good enought? why doesn't he love me? kinda thing)
It really only makes sense that Jace is related to Will. That's what kind of bugged me-he was like an exact reflection of him, and I was really looking forward to a NEW guy. Jam was, sure he had elements of Simon, but he was relatively fresh, what with his infatuation being not so obvious.
Personally, I don't think Jem will make it. I would love for him to-but let's face it, someone important always dies, and I think his "illness" just makes it more likely.
I'm really bummed about Thomas, but I don't htink Sophie deserved him, and she proves that at the end of the book-not really caring either way. She's so absorbed in her "lost beauty" and her infatuation with Jem that she doesn't even realize what she lost, and that makes me...well hate her a little.
I really hope Nate does-painfully, and hopefully Tessa does it.
What really kept me in suspense was Will meeting Magnus at the end-I can't wait to get my hands on the next one.

Posted on Sep 23, 2010 6:27:46 PM PDT
T. Gray says:
i must not have read the book that well because i can not remember who Gabriel is!! Is that the guy who is really mean to Will and makes fun of Jem because of his illness? and if so does that mean the people above want Tessa to end up with the guy who is making fun of Jem for something he can't control?

Posted on Sep 23, 2010 6:27:46 PM PDT
T. Gray says:
i must not have read the book that well because i can not remember who Gabriel is!! Is that the guy who is really mean to Will and makes fun of Jem because of his illness? and if so does that mean the people above want Tessa to end up with the guy who is making fun of Jem for something he can't control?

Posted on Oct 4, 2010 12:03:57 AM PDT
BMW says:
Gabriel Lightwood is the guy who was at the meeting that kept pointing out Will and Jem were too young to be there, he "escorted" them out and they got in a mini argument in the hallway and Tessa scolded him. He called Jem a decent shadowhunter and a gentleman but said something about his "disability". It is implied that Will compromised his sister's virtue lol or so she alleges and that is why Gabriel and his older brother don't like Will.

And honestly, is there any doubt that Will and Tessa end up together? All these forced love triangles in recent novels annoy me. You can have an interesting and turbulent love story with having outside competition.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 15, 2010 10:15:40 PM PDT
September 2011, I've heard. Can't wait, too long away!

And it's definitely anyone's guess how this series will go, as she likes odd surprises (like Clary and Jace believing they were siblings, yet still kissing- almost lost me there, glad I stuck through it.)

Warning! Tangled web ahead:
I have to go back and research the Mortal Instrument series now, because I just learned (from Cassandra Clare's website) that Tessa is actually SEEN by Clary in one of those books. Tessa is talking to Magnus under a tree- she is referred to namelessly as a pale brown haired girl in a white dress and she locks eyes with Clary...and Clary recognizes her somehow (ooooh, so if there is recognition, are THEY related?)
Clary isn't related to the Alec and Isabelle Lightwood, so if Clary and Tessa are related, then Gabriel Lightwood does NOT end up with Tessa. Maybe Clary thought Tessa looks like Jace. Or like Alec and Isabelle (doubt that, different coloring). Who knows.
More importantly, does that mean Tessa is immortal OR was this a dream scene (must research). How SAD if she was immortal and whoever she loves isn't. If Tessa is immortal, then I thought she was infertile? Now I have made a web, someone help me out! :) Maybe Tessa and Will's story is not connected to Jace and Clary's. Seems odd though.

Sadly, I don't recall seeing Jem's last name in Mortal Instruments :(. BUT, like I said, anything goes in one of her books.

Posted on Oct 23, 2010 7:03:49 PM PDT
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BMW says:
"Tessa is actually SEEN by Clary in one of those books. Tessa is talking to Magnus under a tree- she is referred to namelessly as a pale brown haired girl in a white dress and she locks eyes with Clary...and Clary recognizes her somehow (ooooh, so if there is recognition, are THEY related?)"

Really? Hmm. I'll have to go back and find that.

Will and Jace have to be related (both Herondales) so I don't think Tessa and Clary are since I'm 100% convinced Tessa ends up with Will. However, if by some twist of fate they don't end up together, then she may have Tessa and Clary be related and then Will and Jace. The whole pseudopoetic we-couldn't-be-together-but-look-at-that-our-grandchild-are-soulmates thing. But I doubt it. Either way I think Tessa has children, which means she isn't a Warlock and therefore may or may not be immortal. I'm leaning towards not.

Personally I don't want this whole tangled web of ancestors to be focused on TOO much. A connection or two is fine but we have have already been down that road with MI and even though this is a little different it's a little too similiar I think.

Posted on Oct 25, 2010 1:44:21 PM PDT
N. Rivera says:
Gah! Why does everyone want Tessa to end up with Will? I don't find his character likable at all. Jem, on the other hand, is totally likeable. And I LOVED Jace, so I hate the comparisons of Will and Jace. I even liked Gabriel more than Will. I also liked the Clockwork monsters, and I thought the setting was done well. I don't think Jessamine and Isobel were alike at all, like everyone claims. Isobel was a bad ass, Jessamine is annoying. I liked Clary better than Tessa, but I liked Tessa's character.

Posted on Oct 25, 2010 7:44:30 PM PDT
BMW says:
Will is what I was hoping Jace was when I first read City of Bones. Don't get me wrong, I like Jace and all but I don't see him AS "dark" and "cold" as people make him out to be. Sure he had his problems but Will just seems a lot more broken than Jace ever did. I don't know what my obsession is with characters like that but I do understand why other people don't like him as much as I do. I loved Gem but honestly I think his character is going to end up pretty tragic one way or another, if you know what I mean :-(. And I TOTALLY agree about Isobel and Jessamine, they are nothing alike.

Posted on Nov 13, 2010 5:25:24 PM PST
Lucy says:
When Clary sees Tessa in City of Glass, Clary says there's something "familiar" about Tessa. Perhaps it's because Clary sees Jace in Tessa, meaning Tessa and Will end up together and somehow have children? Cassandra Clare did say Will and Jace are related. However, Will did rudely tell Tessa that she can't have children, but you never know until Clare reveals what Tessa is. Once I began thinking that Tessa could possibly be Will's great-great-great-grandmother (or however many "greats"), I wondered why Tessa never made herself known to Jace and how her immortality works with Jace's mortality if she is indeed his ancestor. Perhaps she, like most everyone else, didn't know Jace was a Hernondale? This could all just be wildly off, but I'm just brainstorming, here.

Also, regarding Gabriel from Clockwork Angel, I remember reading about a werewolf named Gabriel in City of Ashes. Luke says he killed Gabriel to become the pack leader. Do you think this werewolf Gabriel has something to do with the Shadowhunter Gabriel, or is it just a coincidence that they have the same name?

These are just some crazy theories, but I'm excited to read Clockwork Prince and find out what happens next! I'm cheering for Jem because he's one of my favorite characters Clare's ever written (and I'm a little tired of the angsty, rude, bad-boy types in teen paranormal fiction) but I think it's pretty obvious Tessa will end up with Will.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 5, 2011 12:41:10 PM PST
Yeah I loved the book but I do think it's kind of sad how it is always obvious who the lead female will end up with. If there is a love triangle, the girl will always end up with the "bad boy" instead of the sweet, kind guy who's always there for her. I hope that her books are less predictable. Of course, that means I'm rooting for Jem. But I have a feeling that isn't going to happen. Books are becoming so predictable nowadays.
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