51 of 61 people found the following review helpful
Waste of Money,
This review is from: Four Seasons Survival Tinder-Quik Fire Tab (Sports)
Including shipping, these are over $10 for 10, or about a dollar a piece. For a fraction of this amount, you can go and get a bag of cotton balls and a jar of vaseline, coat each cotton ball with a dab of vaseline, and using an old empty pill bottle, sans label, you can have your very own backpack 'fire kindling' kit...for about $0.02 each. In the end, that's really all these are, anyhow...cotton plugs with an igniter on them. Beeswax will also work with the cotton balls...just don't be ripped off with a 'pre-made' gimmick.
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Initial post: Dec 31, 2011 2:07:40 PM PST
Then why did you buy them in the first place? You knew before hand that you get 10 for $10.
Posted on Jan 6, 2012 9:15:08 PM PST
I agree! I got them for free shipping.
In reply to an earlier post on Apr 7, 2012 10:47:16 AM PDT
David O says:
@ Larry C, the ones I'm looking at now are $4.00 + Free shipping as well. You should have shopped around longer. The fact that you didn't doesn't mean that the product is a "total waste of money" as you stated. A review which says nothing about the product except that you paid too much for it is useless. The product either worked as advertised or it didn't. Period. These are advertised to be dry, were they? I've used cotton balls saturated with petroleum jelly and while cheap they're also messy to make and use.
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 20, 2012 7:26:37 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 20, 2012 7:26:54 PM PDT
Tom Thumb says:
If dabbing cotton balls in vaseline is is a problem for you to make and use because it's too messy, you shouldn't be anywhere where you need to start fires.
This review was very helpful. Thank you.
In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2012 5:44:31 PM PDT
Melanie C says:
I do find it quite interesting that I have an '18-of-20 found this review helpful', and yet I have three negative comments...all telling me how great it is to use this 'dollar a fire' product instead of the 'nearly-free-alternative' I explained.
Me thinks that a few negative reviewers work for the seller or manufacturer?! Seriously...I buy and try a LOT of survival gear...even when I KNOW how it works-in-theory. Without trained survival instructors like myself ACTUALLY TESTING PRODUCT, people like you three would convince people that they have to buy that Winnebago as a survival back-up because tents-don't-work, or something.
Seriously...when commenters are justifying $1 a light, just for a fire...you don't think actual customers with minimal camping experience actually post negative comments like yours...DO YOU?
I'm just trying to help inform them. What are you trying to do?
Posted on Oct 2, 2012 5:51:54 PM PDT
I agree that $10 a light is pricey. But right now they are $3 w/ free shipping. I use both these and homemade. Homemade is definately much cheaper to take camping etc. But If I want to be prepared on a short hike I can put one of these in my pocket. No pill bottle, or tin, or greasey pockets. They have their uses. BTW I do not work for the manufacturer.
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 4:06:49 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 27, 2012 4:07:09 PM PST
J. Labore says:
Very helpful review. I agree totally. A bic lighter, steel for back up, and a baggie of vaseline laden cotton balls are all you need. If needed you can even burn the bag.
Posted on Feb 1, 2013 8:13:45 PM PST
W. Chambers says:
Thank you for the review on how clever you are, how did the product work?
In reply to an earlier post on Feb 6, 2013 10:27:22 AM PST
In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2013 4:51:14 AM PST
Melanie C says:
JimmC, no thanks for insinuating I'm some type of 'junkie'. I understand that you've never been to a licensed doctor (you just miraculously drink some water and you are well again, right?). Fine - then maybe you could splurge and buy a small 1-oz rubbermaid condiment container at wallie world instead? Sorry, that would mean enlightened shopping and/or exhibiting survival skills to do so. What a foolish thought.
Let me explain something. These cotton-felt 'igniters' keep coming up at $10 after shipping is included, maybe more. While a lot of commenters here keep talking about 'I got them for free shipping or for $3 dollars total', I haven't seen this rate for them YET, but at $3.49 a bag of 10, that's $0.35 a piece, and it's still ridiculous for a $1 item.
Now, on the 'other side of this equation, the one that all the 'pro-plug' commenters keep going off on, is the fact that if you don't know how to make your own 'tender-starters', what good is a bag of 10 of these going to do you? Seriously, you'll run out in 3-days at any significant usage rate. If I tell you that you can use vaseline and cotton balls as a viable $0.50 for 10 alternative, then great, you NOW have competition price-wise(as obviously, you brought all the company employees out to counterpoint this review).
Vaseline on cotton balls can also be used to waterproof a leaking tent, waterproof your shoes, act as a 5-10 minute candle if ignited while laid on a flat rock, and it can be used to lubricate stuck mechanisms, if needed. You can also use the vaseline on cotton ball to 'fatwood up' damp wood to aid in ignition in survival situations. YOU CANNOT DO ALL THIS WITH the Tinder-Kwik product! It has less applications and a higher cost. To that point, it is inferior.
We won't even explain that there are better solutions than cotton balls that can be used, too - like 1/4" cotton clothesline cut into 1-inch segments (sounds like Tender-Kwik a lot more, doesn' it?) but with 10-minutes of prep time with a small jar of vaseline, and rubbing the petroleum jelly into the cut cord, you have a lasting homemade igniter - and better yet, you know how to make your own, because in reality, survival is about KNOWING how to survive, not buying your way into enough tangent gear to live off stockpiled materials.