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45 of 69 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Not Worth It And Depressing, January 8, 2013
This review is from: Doctor Who: Shada (Story 109) (DVD)
Over $30 for what is essentially the length of a 4 part 90 minute Doctor Who story, with some animated stills added to the original production and narration provided for large missing chunks by Tom Baker. (at this time, Barnes&Noble.com is selling the item for about $23, a more reasonable price.) It may be 3 discs, but the "full version", which is flash animation (read: sub par to what is considered broadcast TV quality animation) is only viewable through the internet (granted, most viewers probably have a DVD drive and can connect to a big screen TV) and does not feature the original cast (with a few exceptions, but even then the voices are different), and in my view is a lackluster cartoon attempting to make up for the real thing. As for the other big extra of "More than 30 Years in the Tardis", what you essentially get is a series of inaccurate memories as seen through a child's eyes. As with Dalekmania, the previous heralded Doctor Who documentary, it leaves the viewer confused and unimpressed at the end, destined to fade away with all your other bad dreams with zero value to any casual viewer. Even more depressing are the shorter extras, most of which, instead of celebrating the show, just remind the long term fan of all the people who were connected with the show who are now dead, almost all of which have absolutely nothing to do with Shada or even the Fourth Doctor, and make me wonder why exactly they are on THIS release, unless the producers saw the "Douglas Adams" association as a great marketing ploy to take advantage of, to sell something to fans that they otherwise would be resistant to purchasing. Besides all that, it is not the best story from that period of the show, complete or not, it's definitely not another Douglas Adams triumph as was the previous "City of Death". And ironically, for most fans who probably read the Dirk Gently novel first, it is THIS DVD that now seems like a weak ripoff of THAT story! With this DVD release, to me, Shada still remains incomplete and awaiting a more respectable treatment. Addendum: I noted that several reviewers are admitting that the DVD is not up to their expectations, but they are still giving this DVD 5 stars. Are we being completely honest here or is the 5 stars an intentional effort to offset the lower ratings? If so, then this whole review process is not trustworthy and completely useless. Please consider your rating: are you rating your own marvel and awe at the release of Shada, the story, or are you objectively rating this DVD item? At the very least, adjust your rating to be in synch with your comments. How can you call it a so-so DVD and give it 5 stars? How do you differentiate it from an outstanding item?
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Initial post: Jan 8, 2013 7:08:44 PM PST
A very good counterpoint. Your reasoning is clear and concise and I commend you for taking an opposing stance on this story. Buying this DVD is a double edge sword. It is a lost story of sorts but it is incomplete and that is extremely frustrating to watch
( I touched on this briefly in my review). The reasons this story will never be completed
( and trust me we will NEVER see this story completed) are equally as frustrating.
I bought this DVD because I actually like the concept of the story and the outdoor scenes are excellent for the time (1979).But my fear was that it would just be a retread of the VHS from the 1990s... It seems you have confirmed my fears.
PS you will probably get a lot of NOs on the helpful review meter but you will not get a no from me. Great review!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 9, 2013 6:12:18 PM PST
Jan P. says:
Based on the reviews I've read and the contents of this DVD, it does look like this release was hastily cobbled together with Tom Baker's narration spots from the VHS release, Ian Levine's flash animated cartoon, topped off with a lot of documentaries that while fun and informative are unrelated to the original story. It is my opinion that this story was put out, if for no other reason, than to capitalize on the show's upcoming 50th Anniversary. It would have made more sense to animate the unmade scenes similar to how The Invasion was done, hire a Tom Baker sound-alike (Jon Culshaw does a spot on impersonation seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9zWuklil8g) to perform the Doctor's dialogue, and incorporate the audio from the Shada webcast. Even if this was not possible and this is indeed the best treatment that Shada will ever receive, it hardly commends the greater than average price for a Classic Series DVD. What we've been presented with seems too little, too early, and way too expensive. I have therefore decided to postpone purchasing this DVD until further development.

Posted on Jan 10, 2013 8:24:12 PM PST
This story didn't rip off Gently, which was published 7 years after Shada was to go air. Gently used parts of this story as its basis. Adams felt that things like the Professor shouldn't go to waste.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 17, 2013 12:27:38 PM PST
Makkabee says:
The reviewer didn't say Shada *was* a rip-off of Dirk Gently, but that it would *seem like* a rip-off to someone who had read the novel first. I prefer to think of the television script as a rough draft.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 17, 2013 12:38:51 PM PST
Makkabee says:
Jan Placko said " it does look like this release was hastily cobbled together with Tom Baker's narration spots from the VHS release, Ian Levine's flash animated cartoon, topped off with a lot of documentaries that while fun and informative are unrelated to the original story."

It's my understanding that the flash cartoon is a remake starring Paul McGann as the 8th Doctor and Lalla Ward as Romana. Ian Levine's proposed project involved an audio recording of the missing scenes using all the original actors still available and sound-alikes for the rest, and conventional animation of the new material. Unfortunately, 2Entertain and Mr. Levine were unable to reach an agreement. I will not speculate on the reason for this.
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