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5.0 out of 5 stars Awesome - we're getting back to the heart of GTA, November 5, 2009
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This review is from: Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City (Video Game)
I, along with many others, was ultimately kind of disappointed with the original GTA IV. The removal of the staple elements of the GTA franchise was not good; the side service missions such as paramedic/fire/taxi, the wee remote control vehicles, the crazy cars along with the mini tracks for go karting, triple stunt points gone, and so on... and of course the loss of the planes. Heck even give me back the dodo R*! It was a big surprise to see all that gone and not a pleasant one. But when playing GTA IV you kind of felt that they had more planned for Liberty City in the future. Maybe that golfing range might be able to be used, that skateboard park might come into play and perhaps we'll get to ride on the ferris wheel too at some point.

So with the release of TLOD and TBOGT we're getting somewhere. Now for full disclosure I played The Ballad of Gay Tony through first even though it's episode two, primarily because I wanted to base jump! And in TBOGT I can see Rockstar finally giving us back some of what they took away. You can indeed now play golf in that floating driving range, you can base jump off specific buildings as a challenge or indeed just buy a parachute and jump off anything you want. Tanks are back too! Rockstar are slowly making LC a more fun sandbox and I hope that continues with the release of more episodes. With regards to these two episodes, well you can't go wrong. Both are typical GTA fare with varied missions and great story lines. I won't go into the plots of each - do I need to? There's some nice cross-over moments in the stories though that will make you smile!

With TBOGT you have specific optional targets to do in each mission such as a time limit or how much damage you take. The nice thing about the way this works are the new very extensive mission checkpoints, something massively lacking from GTA IV. But there's a penalty for using a checkpoint - if you use a reload then your mission objectives aren't saved. You can still complete the mission and continue with the story but there's an actual incentive to replay each one and do better each time. It's a great game mechanic that satisfies both players who prefer to blast through the game and those who wish to fine tune each play-through. Nice.

It also seems that LC's code and graphics were fine-tuned somewhat because there's considerably less little glitches and popups in TBOGT over TLOD and the original. But do install the game to the HD if you buy the disc version regardless of which episode you play.

All in all very satisfied that I got my money's worth here. I'm now playing through TLOD although I still have some side mission (drug wars) to complete in TBOGT. It took me 18 hours to complete the second episode and I expect about the same for TLOD. So for about a dollar an hour entertainment this hits the mark. If you felt, as I did, that GTA IV was a step in the wrong direction for GTA then I recommend this compilation; GTA is heading back to its roots.

R* should also be commended for not allowing folks to play the episodes without the need for the original GTA disc if you buy the disc version (you'll need the original if you DL the episodes from XBL). Helpful for those of us who put GTA IV on ebay shortly after completing it!
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Initial post: Nov 29, 2009 2:06:52 PM PST
J.S. Knapp says:
Did you mean to say "FOR allowing folks..." in the last sentence? I know that GTAIV:ELC doesn't require the original disc, which it looks like you were trying to say...

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2009 5:58:49 PM PST
Vynny says:
Yes - you are correct. I did mean to say that you can play these GTA Episodes WITHOUT owning the original GTA Disc. Well spotted.

Hopefully most folks got the gist.

Posted on Mar 4, 2010 5:38:32 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 4, 2010 5:39:55 PM PST
Look, its the fault of Microsoft and all of the 360 owners like you (well the 360 owners didn't really do anything) because Rockstar Games just decided to cut some slack on you guys and make GTA 4 a non-exclusive for the PS3 no matter how much they love it! The reason why it doesn't have all the things that you hoped for is because Blu-Ray has 50GB of storage whereas HD-DVD only has 9. 9GB! That's puny! And R* couldn't fit all of that great stuff on it because YOU guys don't have the space. We PS3 owners have plenty of space! We would definetely have all that space if R* didn't decide to make it for 360 aswell. That's why I hear GTA 5 is going to be a PS3 exclusive! If R* did that, it would be anything but a big mistake! And we would have all that crap! Enjoy it too! I'm not saying 360 is bad (because I have one and like it almost as much as my PS3), but you guys don't have enough goddamn room! Again, not saying it's your fault, but more MS' fault.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 7, 2010 4:53:41 PM PST
Vynny says:
Your reply is a revelation! 10GB vs 50GB! and so obviously R* couldn't fit in the ambulance missions into a 10GB space, but of course it could if it had 50GB! Silly me. Goddamn Xbox 360 bringing us all down with its lack of space n'all.

It's nothing to do with selling PDLC or anything.

The very fact that you responded to a review on *GTA episodic content* THAT WORKS WITHOUT THE ORIGINAL CONTENT shows how much you've thought about your comment about delivery storage space themed post.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 9, 2010 8:01:22 PM PDT
Watcher says:
Vynny, it was a very valid comment. The fact is, if GTA IV was PS3 exclusive like it's previous iterations, these separate "downloadable episodes" would have been released in the original game altogether. I believe it was hinted at this from a Rockstar comment some years ago, which is why they decided to make their Noire release PS3 exclusive. They like to pack a lot of game on a disc to be worth it to gamers and you just can't do that with a regular DVD.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 9, 2010 8:02:10 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 9, 2010 8:02:49 PM PDT
Watcher says:
It has nothing at all to do with Xbox 360 vs PS3. It has to do with plain, hard facts.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 14, 2010 9:59:18 PM PDT
Vynny says:
Dude - These 'downloadable episodes' aren't additional data to an existing item that's already installed on your console, they are standalone products. If you buy GTA: Episodes from Liberty City and you've never bought a GTA game before you get everything that was in GTA IV plus the extra stuff - like base jumping, tanks and so on. Do you not see that GTA IV was an unfinished product NOT because of space considerations but because of timescales and the desire of R* to sell PDLC.

I understand that DVD<Blu ray in terms of data space. But if you think that the ORIGINAL GTA:IV didn't have base jumping in it because of lack of data space then you're delusional. Why? Because of the Ballad of Gay Tony has it. And it's a STANDALONE PRODUCT.

Oh and by the way - Just cause 2 on the 360. I need say no more.
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