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The Devil's Been Debunked !!!,
This review is from: The Devil's Delusion: Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions (Hardcover)
This book is so well written that superlatives seem inadequate. Berlinski begins by stating that he is not religious and has no particular religious axe to grind. He is a mathematician and scientist. Yet he skewers science in general, and Dawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, and Harris in particular with well-reasoned argument, simple yet cogent analysis, and more humor than I would have thought possible for this subject.
Berlinksi makes it clear that he in no way means to disparage or belittle Science. He is only trying to show how Science has been twisted by The Four Horsemen in an attempt to prove an anti-religious point of view, and how that twisting promises so much and delivers so little.
I have read Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris (I could not force myself through Dennett's doorstop of a book), and I thoroughly enjoyed each one as I read it. Yet, reading David Berlinski's book made me honestly question what I found so thought-provoking or convincing about any of them.
This book is well worth reading if for no other reason than raising some unexpectely challenging questions, and providing you with some innovative and fascinating insights into ideas you might not have considered. I really liked this book !!!
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Initial post: May 25, 2008 4:49:27 PM PDT
J. Jones says:
The four horsemen? How about "the gang of four"?
Posted on Jun 20, 2008 7:42:40 PM PDT
modern music fan says:
Oh, but the four horsemen is so much more apocalyptic and dramatic!
Posted on Jul 9, 2008 5:21:37 AM PDT
Dalton C. Rocha says:
Athemism is just a religion.And such as any religion, atheism has fanatics and a corrupt clergy.
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2009 6:50:52 PM PST
For those who do not know, "The Four Horseman" is a movie (or maybe documentary is a better word) of Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, and Dennett sitting around discussing atheism and religion. You can watch the entire film, in pieces, at Youtube.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 17, 2010 5:57:56 PM PST
John L. Opperman says:
Religion-correct me if I'm mistaken, is belief in god/a god/gods.
Athiests simply don't believe in such myths.
Do you always go aound making up stuff ?
In reply to an earlier post on Sep 21, 2010 6:51:17 AM PDT
The word is "atheism". And as has been said, atheism is a religion like baldness is a hairstyle.
Posted on Jun 14, 2011 6:42:12 AM PDT
Mark Stewart says:
No axe to grind? Are you kidding? He's a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, whose stated goals as per the wedge document include "To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God."
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 5, 2011 11:02:43 PM PDT
William McWilliamson says:
Well Mark, that doesn't sound ALL that bad (to me), but unfortunately none of what you said is sufficient to show that Berlinski has an 'axe to grind.' Is it 'possible,' just maybe... that someone might have legitimate complaints about the stuff he wrote about AND not have an 'axe to grind'???
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2011 4:29:15 AM PDT
Mark Stewart says:
Of course it's possible. It's just not, in this particular case, remotely likely, given his background. The Discovery Institute has always insisted that its opinions are scientifically and not religiously motivated in spite of the fact that its stated goals are unambiguously religious. It has a long, rich history of lying about all manner of things evolution-related and religion-related.
If he does have legitimate complaints, I sincerely hope they aren't be the ones listed in the product description, because every single one of those is trivial to counter, and has been presented and refuted countless times already by other writers. If I'm going to read another apologetics book, he could at least provide some original material.
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 15, 2011 2:49:38 PM PDT
William H. Bagot says:
I don't know that much about The Discovery Institute, but even I'm aware that their scientists have no particular religious affiliation or view. Any attempt to claim otherwise would be deviating from the truth.