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An Average Event,
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This review is from: Avengers vs. X-Men (Hardcover)To be honest this is one of the cases where I wish Amazon had a more robust rating system. I really feel this book is a solid C grade, 7 out of 10, 3.5 out of 5 stars, however you want to put it. Since I can't pick that option I have to go with the lower end of the spectrum.
Avengers vs X-Men doesn't have the most logical premise in the world, it is after all just an excuse to see the Avengers fight the X-Men. The Phoenix is returning to Earth and no one really knows what to do about it so the Avengers decide they should attack the X-Men and kidnap a girl who is the most likely host. With the Avengers decision making being as ludicrous as it is the X-Men aren't very happy about it and conflict ensues. The fighting eventually devolves into marvel characters chasing Hope across the globe, pretty standard for an X-Men event (see Messiah Complex and Second Coming). These issues are loud and fast, you get a lot of action but not much in the way of character development. If that's your thing don't get too excited because just 5 issues in Avengers vs X-Men changes things up...well somewhat.
Once the Phoenix finds its host you see an even bigger (but no less logical) divide come between the Avengers and the X-Men. The X-Men proceed to go about fixing the world's problems (whether the world likes it or not) and the Avengers continue with their strategy of attacking the X-Men based on nothing more than suspicion. From this point the X-Men are portrayed as the villains of the series though it could easily be argued every villainous action they take is a direct reaction to aggression brought on by the Avengers. These issues move a little slower (not much) and there are a few attempts at character development. We get a few surprises along the way but don't kid yourself, this is a non-stop action story plain and simple. As such the main area where the event shines is artistically, marvel brought along some of its biggest names and Coipel and Kubert really do a great job with the fight scenes. Aaron, Bendis, and Hickman all do well enough with their scripts; Spider-man's funny, Wolverine's grumpy, Cyclops isn't particularly likable, the writers know their characters unfortunately there isn't much story to be had over so many issues.
The AVX issues span the length of the event and are of widely varying quality. They first issue is probably the weakest since it appears to have been done entirely for shock value (its battles are even mocked by the far more enjoyable issue 6). But overall the quality (and pacing) is fairly consistent with the rest of the event.
In typical marvel fashion the collection department makes no effort to integrate the various "series" together. The Avengers vs X-Men issues are separated from the AVX issues and the infinite bonuses so if you want to read the stories in order, you're going to have to do the leg work on your own (marvel could have at least included a reading guide). There are also a few added bonuses at the end at least one of which is some sort of fight guide I found to be just as confusing as it looked after fully reading through it.
I've already seen complaints the 'included' digital codes are not included, that being said mine was printed plainly on the dust jacket. Of course the code expired on 11/7 and I received my book 11/8 so technically it's not valid but the codes usually remain activated for months beyond their expiration date. As a final side note there is an add for the Marvel Augmented reality app on the last page which while I understand the purpose I found to be disturbingly tacky. Minor Ads are sometimes included at the end of trades but this is the first time I've seen it on a deluxe hardcover and it just doesn't feel the same.
Bottom line, you don't get the depth of storytelling you'll find in Civil War but if you just want to see Super Heroes beating one another up this is your book.
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Initial post: Nov 9, 2012 7:31:49 PM PST
Md Shahdani Z. M says:
hi! Does the Hardcover have an introduction (foreword) by CM Punk (WWE wrestler) ? thanks
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 10:25:24 AM PST
Wow, I skipped right over that but yes it does. Not to diminish your obvious enjoyment of wrestling but I think that alone says something about the quality of this book. Rather than using an intro by a well know author (the standard) they chose to go with someone who is known for well...wrestling. That's exactly what this book is, small on story, big on fighting.
Posted on Nov 11, 2012 2:49:00 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 11, 2012 2:50:16 PM PST
James Donnelly says:
I find it interesting that anyone could find solid ground for characterization here. I think that they miss the mark entirely, particularly with Cyclops. Marvel seems all too intent on making Wolverine pretty much the only mutant you should care about, other than the ones that have their own books... oh, wait... the only one that has their own book right now is Wolverine, who also happens to be running a school, running a black-ops unit, being an Avenger and a New Avenger, and also having the only interesting arc of "character" in this entire series. Everyone else is either Phoenix = Good or Phoenix = Bad, and that's it. And Cyclops, pretty much since Whedon and Cassaday showed how ridiculously awesome Cyke can be under the right writers, has been just the guy Marvel has been designing you to hate. Just the first couple of pages with him in it in this series make him quite the d--k. For God's sakes, he's basically kicking the crap out of a teenager in his intro to this series. Initially, I wanted to chalk that up to somehow The Phoenix Force is messing with his head, but no. More than anything, that's what I felt that this book was; a character assassination.
Posted on Nov 17, 2012 12:03:58 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 17, 2012 12:05:43 PM PST
Dave T. says:
Hi Ant, can you check your book's dust jacket again? Mine expires on 11/7/2013, not 2012, so there's almost a year to redeem that code. (My problem is that my book's jacked has a blank space with no code - I'll have to contact Amazon about that - no printing or code in that area at all. I'm sure it won't be a problem getting this resolved - Amazon is really good at this kind of thing.)
You have a good review! I've just started the book, so I haven't been reading too many reviews yet, since I don't want spoilers.
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 17, 2012 2:28:48 PM PST
Wow it does say 2013, good catch. I just figured it was like the comics where you only have a "week" from the original release date to redeem it and since amazon gets these books about a week after comic shops I assumed it was designed as an incentive to buy it at a local comic shop (which may be the reason so many people are complaining they aren't getting the codes on amazon). Regardless though my point is still valid, you really can redeem these marvel codes well after they expire I do it all the time with the comics I subscribe to.
There's an image posted now that shows how the code should appear by another reviewer, but good luck with your replacement Amazon has the most forgiving return policy outside of Walmart so I don't foresee you having a problem.
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 4, 2012 12:04:31 PM PST
C. W. Atkins says:
You have a full year on floppy digital codes as well.
Posted on Apr 14, 2013 5:45:27 AM PDT
Eric Langille says:
You summed this one up perfectly
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