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The penultimate Robotech collection,
This review is from: Robotech - Protoculture Collection (DVD)
When Robotech burst onto the American TV scene in the early 1980s, everyone was stunned. This was a wonderfully serious dramatic story, an epic saga about a war spanning generations. People fought, people died--bad decisions had consequences. And the story actually continued from episode to episode, rather than each one being a different story--for children's TV, that was unheard-of!
Of course, we all know now that it was really assembled from three entirely unrelated anime series, but that still doesn't change what Carl Macek accomplished. He created a sweeping story greater than the sum of its parts, a story that we Robotech fans can still enjoy today.
I have not yet seen this series in its entirety, having as I do only the first set of remastered DVDs that are included within this one. However, from watching those episodes, I can say that the sound and video quality is nothing short of amazing. If you have a 5.1 speaker system, you are going to want to use this set as a demonstrator; during the battle sequences, the explosions occur all around you. When the SDF-1 zooms low overhead in the first part of the first episode, you feel like you should duck and cover.
Of course, the remastering isn't without its niggling little annoyances. The opening credits are changed from the credits we remember and love, focusing more on footage from the particular series that you're watching. Some of the new sound effects or the new sound mix are not as good as the ones we remember from our youth. But for all of that, this is still the best that Robotech has ever looked and sounded. Plus, for the first time ever, it now comes bundled with the seven extras DVDs from the Legacy Collection, which include things like The Sentinels, the Codename: Robotech feature movie, and more other stuff than you can shake a stick at.
I do feel the pain of those people who are upset at ADV's "double-dipping," especially given that ADV originally said that a remastered Robotech would be impossible to make, but there is a reason for it. At the time they made that claim, they honestly had no expectation of ever being able to find the original audio elements that they would need to put a new version together. As far as they knew, everything had been destroyed in a flood. However, a year or so later those old elements were discovered and restored after all, and Harmony Gold and ADV felt that fans would probably rather have a remastered version than not.
Despite what others have said, I feel this is likely to be THE penultimate Robotech collection; I just can't think of anything else they can do to the show that they have not already done. Remastered audio and video, check. Extras DVDs, check. Bundle them together, check. That's it, they're done.
There simply isn't any way they could include the original source material on the same discs as Robotech. This isn't a simple matter of a show being redubbed "straight," where they could slap the original voice track onto the same footage. Robotech was edited in large and small ways (especially the Southern Cross segment, which had episodes chopped up and reassembled (including one episode put together entirely from scratch) and the order switched around), so the footage simply does not correspond to the original audio any longer. And there's not room to put those on the same discs as Robotech. In order to put the original shows in, they'd have to include them separately, as was done on the abortive "Perfect Edition" VHS series a while back--and in order to do that they'd have to add still more discs to the set. And why bother? You could go ahead and buy the original sets separately and be just as well-off.
If you've been lucky or prudent enough to hold off on purchasing a Robotech set until now, this is the one you might as well get.
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Initial post: Jul 30, 2007 6:10:06 PM PDT
F. D. Kaplan says:
Penultimate means "one before last". What you meant was ultimate.
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 10, 2008 12:25:38 PM PST
Won Lee says:
Posted on Dec 17, 2008 10:50:07 AM PST
C. Viray says:
This set is the first set of Robotech I owned. I could see them making a new set down the road, since this set doesn't include all the Macross episodes. I recently watched Macross Frontier, 25 Episodes, not included in The Protoculture Collection. I don't really like reading subtitles, but even if Macross Frontier isn't dubbed in English, I really liked it. The drawings and transformations are far superior than The Macross Saga, making it more enjoyable to watch now. Not to say I don't enjoy The Macross Saga. The story and characters are just as good as the Macross Saga. I thought Robotech The Macross Saga was my favorite anime, but Macross Frontier is my new favorite anime. So if ever they made a set that contained a complete set with Macross Frontier included and dubbed in English. I could see me paying for the double dip.
Posted on Dec 19, 2008 7:31:42 AM PST
The Robotech set I want is the remastered production values, but with the content exactly as it was broadcast on TV. No new credits, no new scenes, no new sounds. Just a clearnup of the original source material. That's what this product should have been.
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 25, 2009 1:57:05 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 25, 2009 1:59:17 PM PDT
John T. Lee says:
Just like Macross Plus, Macross 7 and Macross Zero before it, Macross Frontier will never be incorporated into the Robotech setting, for 1) Harmony Gold would never be able to get its ugly paws on another Macross product after the decades-old legal brouhaha and 2) there are far too many inconsistencies between the later Macross stories and the Robotech timeline, especially with Sentinel and Shadow Chronicles on top of Southern Cross and Mospeada.
So, in short, this is likely as good as any Robotech set will get, you can feel safe to drop the "penultimate".
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011 11:57:24 AM PST
Jason Lao says:
I know this is old, but I just read the review and was thinking the same thing. Penultimate? But the reviewer isn't telling me how the producer is going to make the final one better...
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 11, 2014 6:03:50 PM PST
Turns out I was right. It WAS the "penultimate" box set after all. :P Or maybe even not, have they come out with two since then? Whatever.
In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2014 12:33:37 AM PDT
Solid Snake86 says:
Robotech_Master called that one way back in '05. Penultimate, indeed.
However, it now feels like Harmony Gold has been churning out a new Robotech DVD boxset every other month.
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