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Not really a Jackie Chan movie,
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This review is from: 1911 (Collector's Edition) [Blu-ray] (Blu-ray)
I live in Albuquerque, and I drove to Denver to catch a screening of this movie. The trailers and promotions bill it as a Jackie Chan movie, but he really only has a supporting role. There's one brief fight scene, but otherwise it's heavy drama and lots of guns. And as I said, Jackie Chan is not the main, or even main supporting, actor in the movie. Several commenters said that it's only natural that there's less action since Jackie is older, and maybe that's true, but that's not my point. My point is that JC is on the screen less than half the time, but the movie has been promoted as though JC is the star. The film itself was well-produced, though many of the details were confusing because it's supposed to be a historical piece and I know very little about Chinese history. It also moves rapidly, making it difficult for a casual watcher to keep track of names, dates, places, etc.
One other item to note is that the film showed in Mandarin, and Jackie Chan did not dub his own voice. Well Go USA, the distributor, also included Mandarin as the only audio track when it released Shaolin, another recent Jackie Chan movie. I believe that this blu ray release will feature only Mandarin and not Cantonese. Well Go USA also edited out nearly a half hour from this version. Some commenters suggested that the Chinese government is responsible, but I don't really know. All I can say for sure is that this version is quite a bit shorter than the version I saw in the theater a few months ago.
Among JC's recent releases--Karate Kid, Little Big Solider, Shaolin, Shinjuku Incident--this is my least favorite, mostly because of how little JC it features. Armour of God 3 should be fun once it arrives later this year/early next year.
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Initial post: Jan 10, 2012 7:31:41 AM PST
He realizes it's time to move on; he has said as much in a number of interviews. He's certainly proving he can do drama. I like seeing him in different roles; he's good.
Posted on Jan 10, 2012 1:59:19 PM PST
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J. Wu says:
It is a Jackie Chan film as he is the main director of this movie (the other guy is new), just like many movies are called a Steven Spielberg's movie or a James Cameron's movie even without the person being shown in the movie at all.
Mandarin is the original language for Shaolin and JC did dub his own voice (but not in Mandarin though. He is speaking a Henan dialect). Mandarin is also the original language for 1911 as almost all casts are from mainland and is also closer to the history.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2012 4:11:46 PM PST
I concede your point about calling it a Jackie Chan movie because he directed it, but that's not what the product listing suggests. It lists Chan as the first actor, and some editions of the film feature Chan's image prominently on the cover. That's dishonest advertising.
As for the language issue, you may know better than me, but I am used to Jackie Chan movies being in Cantonese and featuring Chan's voice. It most definitely was NOT his voice in the version I saw screened in Denver. At that, quite a few actors had dubbed voices. I am not used to that being the norm for JC movies. It wasn't the case for Little Big Solider, New Police Story, Rob B Hood, Shinjuku Incident, Myth, etc.
I'm not saying this movie is bad, but it's definitely different from what I expected.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2012 5:56:16 PM PST
J. Wu says:
I do agree with every word you said.
This movie is closer to the style as a documentary movie, and not a typical JC movie.
However, I did know what type of movie it would be before watching it, knowing that there would be a lot of historical people played by many actors/actresses, and not an action movie. I had much less shock than you I think.
Posted on Jan 13, 2012 4:56:04 PM PST
Shawn McKenna says:
Dubs: quick note on Jackie dubs -- if you watch films from him earlier that Police Story 2, even though they are Cantonese, it is not Jackie's voice (as was the practice at that time to have others dub your voice).
The Mandarin dub on here is the correct one (even though it is not JC's voice) since it is a PRC release.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2012 5:00:22 PM PST
I'm aware that the first JC movie that featured his own voice is Police Story 3. However, since then his films, which are released in Cantonese with Mandarin dubs, do feature his voice. All I'm saying is that I was disappointed that JC did not have a major role in this movie and that his voice was dubbed.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 16, 2012 2:29:01 PM PST
Shawn McKenna says:
Technically a few of his later Mandarin dubs do not necessarily have his voice, but yeah it is fun to find his voice on English and Mandarin dubs when he does do it.
I think the film is dissapointing, but more for the propaganda aspect of it, favoring certain aspects while ignoring others (the end title cards where pretty much a disgrace stating that Sun's philosophy carried over to the Communists) and the fact that the film feels like a Cliff Notes version of the events during 1911 and early 1912.
Have you been dissapointed with JC's later films? Any favorites among the past several years. I'm a fan of Little Big Soldier, but found some like Shinjuku Incident lacking (as well as Looking for Jackie).
Posted on Apr 10, 2012 9:04:23 AM PDT
Blanco Raul Javier says:
hello can you tell me if you have subtitles in Spanish?
Posted on Mar 18, 2014 6:47:07 AM PDT
Veritas Veritatis says:
Jackie Chan is a martial artist/comedian/stunt man
Why isn't that good enough?
Age is probably the reason for his desire for a make-over.
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 20, 2014 6:15:52 AM PDT
I don't think you interpreted my review accurately. You'll find no bigger fan than me, but 1911 is a lackluster effort for all kinds of reasons, the LEAST of which is Chan's changing role. The problem is that he's barely in the movie.
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