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Few steps forward, few steps back, and some lack of changes,
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This review is from: Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac Home & Student Edition [Old Version] (Software)I was running office 2004 and waiting for this. This review is limited but I was looking for specific things.
-universal binary (faster on intel macs)
-PowerPoint now shows the slides on the left instead of just the text outline.
-you can install it alongside office 2004 and run both versions on the same computer
-dragging images from other apps doesn't work anymore
-when you paste an image in word or PowerPoint, it gets converted to a different format so that if you put it back to the original app it's a simple picture instead of an editable one. (for example if you make an illustration in OmniGraffle, paste it in word 2008, you come back a week later and decide you want to tweak it, you can no longer copy the image back to OmniGraffle and edit it. You either must have saved the original or start over. Office 2004 didn't do this and so sadly I'm more productive with office 2004).
-installation is not drag and drop anymore and it installs things like silverlight without asking you. I feel my Mac got dirty now with who knows what installed where.
What didn't change
-you still can't generate motion paths in PowerPoint (to move objects around on a slide) like you can in the PC version since a few versions ago. But you can play this back fine if you generated the PowerPoint on a PC.
-a step backward for me as I want to use it for lectures in my class but now I'm afraid to because I have hundreds of diagrams and illustrations that now will be locked in PowerPoint.
-I'm going to completely use Keynote/Pages (iWork) from now on. Unfortunately some 3rd party apps require Office so I'm stuck with it. And it doesn't have all the features yet of Office.
-Unfortunately OpenOffice/NeoOffice exhibit the same image formating problem and they have their own issues.
I have since reformatted my computer and sold Office to a Colleague who needed it. Good Riddance. So long Microsoft.
To add a hopeful note, I discovered Nisus Pro word processor. It does (technical writing) things Pages doesn't (e.g. index) and seems better than MS Word.
EDIT #3 (Oct 2009)
I'm doing fine without MS Office for a long time now. For very math heavy documents I use Lyx (free, little complicated to start but worth it). For casual word processing, I use Pages or Nisus or openoffice (typically one of these will open a doc or docx file correctly). I use Keynote for presentations with LaTeXiT (free) for math equations. And Numbers or openoffice has been adequate for spreadsheets. Since the new OS (snow leopard) has built in exchange support (which this version of office doesn't), there is nothing lacking.
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Initial post: Jan 23, 2008 6:37:52 PM PST
"Unfortunately some 3rd party apps require Office"
And those might be...? Apparently not so critical that you couldn't ultimately do without Office 08. Have to agree about Keynote. It puts PowerPoint to shame, but 99% of preso-heads will still use PP 'cause it's the de facto standard. Poor them.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2008 7:15:01 PM PST
To answer your question, 3rd party apps that need office: Turningpoint Technologies audience response system. MathType (nicer integration, I'm looking for alternatives, as grapher isn't as complete as I would like). Endnote (not that big a deal).
I'm trying to do without them.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 26, 2008 9:06:39 AM PST
A. Cimino says:
Neither MathType nor Endnote *require* Office, they simply have optional components that integrate with Office. Both programs fuction well without Office installed.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 26, 2008 10:10:01 AM PST
Which is why I wrote "nicer integration" in the post just above yours. I don't want things to work half way. I'm paying full price for them i want them to fully function.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 29, 2008 5:02:34 PM PST
Denise's Reviews says:
Very nice review. Thanks for saving me a bundle!
In reply to an earlier post on Feb 9, 2008 6:43:04 AM PST
Gift Card says:
I got Office '08 for $10 because of the timing when I acquired '04 (I got my new MAC in September '07). Office '08 has been sitting on the shelf--I've been afraid to install it because I don't trust Microsoft. This review helped me to decide. I'm not going to put it on my mac.
In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2008 1:46:17 PM PST
You're welcome. I went to the Apple site and it seems people there are having problems with Office messing with their Safari-Keychain interactions. It's like they don't want people to like their software. I was waiting so impatiently... I was actually excited about this. How many times do I have to get abused by MS to finally leave them?
In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2008 7:17:24 AM PST
James Plante says:
Thanks for a comprehensive review. I use NeoOffice at present, and will just keep doing so. Calc doesn't graph as nicely as Excel does, but I won't deal with MS in order to get that capability. At least I don't have to pay to be aggravated.
In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2008 2:19:38 PM PST
Have you tried Mariner Calc? I haven't really messed with it but they have a demo (it doesn't look pretty but it looks functional). I ended up using Numbers but I use NeoOffice Calc when Numbers can't open an Excel file properly. I did use the stat package (add on) in Excel 2004 but you can't use it the 2008 (no VBA as I'm sure you've heard!).
I'm still looking for software that'll let me do a histograms (why is this so hard?).
In reply to an earlier post on Feb 25, 2008 7:16:33 AM PST
Timothy J. Gollin says:
for good spreadsheet, simple, fast, try Tables - inexpensive, elegant - http://www.x-tables.eu/more/overview.html