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5.0 out of 5 stars The Best English Translation of Sacred Scripture from the Latin Vulgate of St. Jerome, August 1, 2006
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This review is from: Douay-Rheims Bible {Standard size - Black Flex Cover} (Leather Bound)
The Douay Rheims was translated directly from the Latin Vulgate at the famous English seminaries of Douay and Rheims in France by the college scholars of the former Catholic seminary university, the University of Oxford. These Oxford Catholic scholars which included Cardinal Gregory Martin were professed Roman Catholics who refused to submit to authority that Queen Elizabeth I was the head of the Church of England. Cardinal Gregory Martin was also a former Oxford associate and personal friend of St. Edmund Campion (the Jesuit saint who was butchered into pieces alive in England for being a Catholic priest).

Here is an excellent and good example of the Douay Rheims translation. St. Luke 1:28 says, "Hail full of grace, the Lord is with you". The KJV Authorised Version says, "Hail favored one, the Lord is with you". The New American Bible and the Jerusalem Bible says the same thing like the KJV Authorised Version. The former Bibles are Catholic Bibles while the latter is a Protestant one! What is even worse, the NAB and KJV Authorised Verison were translated by Protestants! Pope Paul VI even states that the former was translated by heretics in his letter of introduction regarding the NAB.

The original Latin translation based on the Hebrew word-for-word says, "Ave gratia plena, dominus tecum". "Ave gratia plena" translates as either "Hail full of grace or "Hail filled with grace". The Protestant scholars translated out the real verse on St. Luke 1:28 because they believed it was only reference to the Catholic prayer, "Hail Mary" at the same time changing the biblical importance and meaning of the verse regarding the Virgin Mary. The meaning of "full of grace" means that the Blessed Virgin was conceived without the stain of original sin.

How can a Catholic defend the infallible dogma of Our Lady's Immaculate Conception with faulty Catholic Bible translations like the New American Bible or the Jerusalem Bible? How can our Faith be defended by the attacks of enemies Our Church? The Rosary is biblically associated with the Bible and how can we defend the prayer "Ave Maria" with these faulty translations.

Non-Catholic churches such as the Eastern Orthodox church translate St. Luke 1:28 correctly like the Catholic Bible.

Unfortunately, most Catholic Bibles like the New American Bible (NAB) were translated by Protestant scholars (with the exception of the RSV: Catholic Edition which translated St. Luke 1:28 to the original version).

Using "Thou" and "Thee" may be a serious obstacle to many Catholic readers of the Bible. Logically, would you rather read a Bible that you can understand but it is not giving you the real and full meaning of what it is saying or rather you read a Bible that you cannot understand but it gives you the real and full meaning of what it is saying?

The Douay-Rheims had been a reliable Bible translation for more than 500 years until 1941 with the publication of the Confraternity Version. The Douay Rheims Bible had only one revision in 1742 by the Apostolic Vicar of London, Bishop Richard Challoner. The King James Authorised Version had numerous revisions and editing because of the poor translation given by its Protestant scholars. In fact, the Douay Rheims Bible's English was updated to the English used in the 18th and 19th centuries by the Servant of God, Bishop Richard Challoner. The 1611 King James Authorised Verison was never edited after its publication and it is far more archaic in its English translation than the Douay Rheims.

Like the King James Bible, reading the Douay Rheims enhances your reading skills and your English vocabulary whether you are British or an American because the Douay Rheims is truly a British English translation. You will hear or read words that you will never see in modern translated Bibles such as these words:

1. Anathema

2. Sundry

3. Husbandry

4. Husbandman

5. Brethren

6. Heretic

7. Schism

8. Heresy

The commentary of this Bible entirely and 100% Catholic without Modernist influence or heretical teachings. If you want a Douay Rheims Bible with much more commentary for the Biblical verses, I suggest for you to buy the Haydock Bible of the Douay Rheims Bible. It is about $100 but with extensive and verse-to-verse commentary on the Bible. It really helps and is excellent for helping you understanding the Bible.

Avoid modern Catholic Bibles translated with Modernist errors and commentary. These Bible spread heretical commentaries and teachings. Modernism is a heresy that was condemned by Pope St. Pius X in 1907. Any baptized Catholic who professes or believes the errors or heresy of Modernism, is not a Catholic, but a heretic. Examples of Modernist errors are: Dogmas evolve over time because times of have changed. Dogma needs to be taught with a new perspective and understanding. The Catholic Church doesn't teach that anymore because it is traditional. The Catholic Church needs women to be priests (condemned by Pope John Paul II and his predecessors). The [infallible] dogma of No Salvation Outside the Church is wrong because there is salvation with other religions and it is simply narrow-minded to believe it.
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Initial post: Sep 19, 2007 8:56:59 AM PDT
Mr. Villegas's review is well written and informative. He demonstrated that he is well read and offers good anecdotes to encourage readers to read this translation of the Bible. His comment that this translations enhances reading ability is accurate. This is a solid review.

Posted on Sep 21, 2007 9:12:44 AM PDT
Not being Catholic and agreeing with some of the heretic teachings mentioned in the last paragraph, that would make me a heretic I guess. I don't mind, we are all heretics to someones world view. However, I still think the review was detailed, informative and helpful, so I agree with James comment.

Posted on Nov 12, 2008 9:36:31 PM PST
Thom, stop being happy with judging yourself by the worlds standards, "Be not as the World", and come home to the Catholic Church! Your own free-will accepts heresy and can be used to accept that which God Himself gave to the all men through the Church. Grace from The Father will be your reward!

Posted on May 16, 2009 1:49:31 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 16, 2009 2:20:04 PM PDT
T. C. Moore says:
"The original Latin translation based on the Hebrew word-for-word says, "Ave gratia plena, dominus tecum". "Ave gratia plena" translates as either "Hail full of grace or "Hail filled with grace"."

The original NT was in Greek, not Hebrew, as quoted above. There has been some discussion of Aramaic being the original written language of the New Testament but recent scholarly studies dispute this claim.
Hebrew was the original language of the Old Testament with a few verses in Aramaic.
The Douay-Rheims is an English translation of the Latin Vulgate. Given that it is a translation of a translation there is yet another added layer of opacity to some already rather difficult to understand texts.
Compare the RSV translation, used in The Catechism of the Catholic Church, of the Epistles of St. Paul with the Douay-Rheims. To the modern reader I believe the RSV is clearer in presenting St. Paul's sometimes rather obscure and convoluted arguments.
Of course having four books of Kings and two books named Paralipomenon is pretty cool.....

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2014 1:25:17 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 27, 2014 3:28:09 PM PDT
The teaching of the Catholic Church: "No Salvation outside the Apostolic Catholic Church is TRUE!" The Reasons are the following:
1. The KEYS to THE Kingdom of Heaven is given to Peter (and the rest of the Apostles for they have obeyed and are Perfected in Matt 19:16-30 as JUDGES to 12 Tribes of Israel) to Judge being to loose (free or forgiven> John 20:23) or bind (retained>condemned) on Earth as it is in Heaven.
2. LORD JESUS CHRIST Consecrated HIMSELF to the 11 Apostles (Judas not included) and JESUS prayed that GOD will consecrate the Apostles in TRUTH for the FATHER's WORD is TRUTH and to the FUTURE Disciples in John 17:17-26.
3. LORD JESUS CHRIST Prayed specific to the Apostles only and NOT TO THE WORLD but for the Ones that FATHER has given to LORD JESUS for they are yours and everything of yours is mine and I (LORD JESUS) have been Glorified in them> John 17:9.
4. It was NOT you (Apostle, Disciples> Catholic Popes, Bishops, Priest) who choose ME (LORD JESUS) BUT I (LORD JESUS) who choose you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you asked the FATHER in MY NAME (LORD JESUS) HE may give you> John 14:16.
5. LORD JESUS said to HIS 11 Apostles: "Peace be with you. As the FATHER has sent ME, so I send you." And when HE had said this, HE BREATHED on them, "Receive the HOLY SPIRIT"> John 20:21. "All Power in Heaven and on Earth has been given to ME (LORD JESUS). Go, therefore, and make Disciples of All Nations (Apostolic >Roman Catholic thru Emperor Constantine 320 AD) Baptizing them in the NAME of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY SPIRIT, Teaching Them All what I HAVE COMMANDED You. And behold, I AM with You Always, Until The END Of The AGE> Matthew 28:18-20. > Holy Apostolic Catholic Church 2014 with Pope Francis Chief Shepherd on Earth.
6. "Amen, Amen I (LORD JESUS) say to you, I AM THE GATE For The Sheep. I AM THE GATE, Whoever Enters Through ME Will Be SAVED"> John 10:7-9. LORD JESUS CHRIST commanded Peter to Follow HIM : FEED The Lambs (Body and Blood of LORD JESUS> John 6:53-58), TEND The Sheep (Minister and Teach all the Secrets of The Commandments), and FEED The Sheep (Holy Eucharist> BODY and BLOOD of LORD JESUS CHRIST).
7. LORD JESUS CHRIST Said This to HIS APOSTLES: "The Mystery of The Kingdom Of GOD has been GRANTED to You (Apostles). BUT to those Outside (World) Everything Comes in PARABLES, So that They may Look and See BUT NOT PERCEIVED, and Hear and Listen BUT NOT UNDERSTAND in order that They (Protestant) MAY NOT> Be Converted and Be Forgiven"> Mark 4:11-12. In Matthew 13:10-11 The Disciples approached JESUS and said: "Why do you speak to Them (World or Protestant Churches) in PARABLES? JESUS Said To The Disciples in reply: "Because The KNOWLEDGE (KEYS) of the MYSTERIES of The KINGDOM OF HEAVEN Has Been GRANTED To You (Apostles and Disciples in Catholic Church) and to Them (World or Protestant Churches)IT HAS NOT BEEN GRANTED."
8. (verse 8)For by GRACE you have been SAVED Thru FAITH, and this not from you; it is a GIFT Of GOD; (verse 9) it is NOT from WORKS so No One May Boast. (verse 10) FOR (Conclusion) We (Disciples who is Obedient) are HIS Handiwork, Created in CHRIST JESUS for GOOD WORKS that GOD has Prepared in Advance, that We Should Live in Them (Necessary if We REMAIN in Obedience with JESUS/GOD Commandments. 1st is to LOVE GOD with All Your: Heart, Strength, Soul, Mind. 2nd LOVE your Neighbor as Yourself. To LOVE the LORD JESUS CHRIST is TO KEEP ALL GOD'S COMMANDMENTS and EXACTLY OBEY/ OBSERVE THEM ALL (Deuteronomy 8:1, 8:6, 10:12-13) in the same MANNER that JESUS Was OBEYING HIS FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY> John 14:15-31 and Amen , amen, I Say To You, Whoever Believes in ME Will DO The WORKS That I DO> John 14:10-12.
9. KNOW this FIRST OF ALL, that there is NO PROPHECY that is MATTER of PERSONAL INTERPRETATION for NO PROPHECY CAME THRU HUMAN WILL but rather HUMAN BEINGS MOVED by the HOLY SPIRIT Spoke Under the INFLUENCE Of GOD> 2nd Peter 1:20-21 (Protestant Churches founded their Churches thru Self Interpretation of the HOLY BIBLE for They Disobeyed the Apostolic Catholic Church Teaching). Baptism of Saul (St Paul) GOD Strike Him Blind to Confirm and make Him FEAR The LORD JESUS CHRIST so that He will REPENT (Water Baptism) and Paul believed in JESUS CHRIST (GIFT of FAITH) but THIS IS NOT ENOUGH for JESUS and HOLY SPIRIT has instructed a Disciple moved by HOLY SPIRIT "Ananias" to Baptize Paul with the HOLY Thru THE LAYING OF HANDS of Ananias> Acts 9:1-19. Baptism of Cornelius (Roman Gentile who has Fear GOD and practices ALMSGIVING as Justified his GOOD WORKS then Salvation thru Faith and Baptism with HOLY SPIRIT thru Apostolic Process) by Peter> Acts 10:1-48. Baptism of Samarians in the Name of The Lord JESUS CHRIST thr
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