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FlexTT5 performs better,
This review is from: Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash (Black) (Electronics)I purchased five of these 600ex-rts. Problems found on the first shoot and tech support couldn't resolve:
On RT mode, will not shoot until master transmitter is up and it is always slowest to recycle than the slaves, even with the flash off the master. So even though all your flashes are ready to shoot, it will not because the master is not ready. It's critical as it can be nearly a third as long than all your remote's recycling time! Will do this even off body and testing. This occurred in modes ETTL and Manual. The slowness of recycle when dumping in bright sunlight is markedly longer than when shooting my 580ex II's with Flex TT5's.
I will gladly raise the stars if they can have a firmware update to address the above as you don't have to deal with the AC7's or RF socks. I wonder if the delay occurs with the STE3, but like Profoto and other pro strobe, getting a partial flash is better than totally missing a moment and have nothing. Sometimes computerization gets in the way of photography.
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Initial post: Jul 27, 2012 1:31:46 AM PDT
A. Harrison says:
Give Canon a call at the Canon Professional Services phone number 1-888-CPS-4540. This is a very good suggestion. I just called them about the same thing and they said they need more reports of this to make it an item in the next scheduled firmware update.
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 27, 2012 3:31:30 AM PDT
Heh...yes, first thing. Matter of fact I been calling a dozen times on this. And CPS in San Diego brought it up to the engineers. They reply was that it performs to specs. Goes to show that engineers are not photographers and reduce the performance of a product because they cannot figure how to keep them from over heating. Steve Jobs will call this group of engineers "B" level and eventually fired. The performance of a product and the experience is everything. Canon hasn't improved the performance of their equipment for quite awhile. My Mark IV focuses more poorly than my first 1DS. However they improve the specs on ISO. I mean, the value of the design is how it performs for the basic needs of a pro photographer. Fire when you push the button and keep it sharp!
Posted on Aug 30, 2012 6:54:21 PM PDT
Gavin Farrington says:
Sorry you feel this way. I got rid of my Flex TT5 system and bought these, and my experience with the 600s is that they're WAY better than my Flex TT5s were. I hope a firmware update addresses your issues.
Posted on Aug 31, 2012 6:43:16 AM PDT
S. Meyer says:
Thanks for your review, and it's good to see someone who has tested an item on real photo shoots. I was thinking of getting the 600EX-RT, but your review has given me pause. The main reason for me to get them would be remote HSS. This pretty much guts that feature. I noticed that sometimes, I'll run into an issue with a piece of equipment, and when I talk to other photographers who have glowing reviews, they will reluctantly admit it is an issue for them. So, I'm generally suspicious of reviews where folks have not had the chance to fully test an item in real situations.
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 31, 2012 1:51:40 PM PDT
Did you try this in bright Sunlight? I'm not using them as fill but key light in full sun. I tested extensively and even shot it again recently. Missed so many great moments in between slow recycling at FULL DUMP that wouldn't have with the Flex TT5. Now I hear the TT5's will work with the 600EX RT without socks or AC7 but I haven't had time to test.
Posted on Oct 12, 2012 6:41:20 PM PDT
B. Raraigh says:
Did you try changing C.Fn-06 to ON? This should allow the flash to fire in "Quick flash mode" before it's completely charged. This may only work in continuous shooting modes but if you are shooting events I assume you are using this mode anyway.
Posted on Nov 13, 2012 11:23:49 AM PST
I had the exact same thing happen to me. I even tried setting the master to "OFF" and still experienced this scenario.
Posted on Dec 17, 2012 7:06:01 PM PST
T. Deevers says:
Not knowing your full situation let me state that the master flash doesn't report that it is ready (by beeping) until the other slave units are powered up first. This is by design. I use 3 600's professionally in weddings, outdoor senior, family sessions and sports. I shoot in M, AV (camera) and M & ETTL (flash) and I've not had a problem with them at all. The 600's have allowed me to get back to my photography and not worry about the pocketwizard solution that I use to utilize.
In my opinion and use of the 600's, which I use extensively, perform as expected and as claimed by Canon. I've been using Canon flashes since the early 80's and the 600's are by far enabling me to concentrate on the creativity of photography not the equipment.
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 8:28:49 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 17, 2012 10:12:02 PM PST
The interval from when all the slaves are recycled and red to when the master goes red is the issue. I miss shots when doing full dumps. None of the advice on this board or with Canon resolves the issue as I have tried the CF settings of course.
I actually have 6 600EX RT's and now the 1DX. When using these I shoot on manual camera setting, ETTL, HSS, and multiply the heads so you get enough power to +1 at least above the sun.
If you used the FlexTT5's and 580EXII's then you'll notice that you no longer can do fairly rapid shooting, not motor drive of course, but a lot quicker than this. Of course this may damage your flash due to possible overheating perhaps, but I use them as a tool and feel that getting moment is far more important than an occasional repair on a flash. BTW, I never had to send in a 580EXII for overheating due to rapid firing, IE: firing before the red light comes on. You can't fire before the red light with this model, and doubly worse, is that delay after all the slaves are already up. Try it. But if you are just shooting fill, or indoors, this may not be an issue. It's when you push the system. I still use my Profotos as they fire regardless. I feel moments are everything, even if it's slightly underexposed. I like the equipment to fire when you press the shutter. Is that asking too much? Like the analog days you know.
I'm yet to try the FlexTT5's with these and problem will be solved. LPA says they are compatible.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 4, 2013 8:55:22 AM PST
Jeffrey Peterman says:
Do they offer a battery pack for this model? I use the CP-E3 with my 580, loaded with the four NiMH batteries, and the flash cycles almost instantly. The battery pack isn't very expensive (around $150) and has made a huge difference for me with the 580 (I no longer bother checking whether the flash has recycled between shots).