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1.0 out of 5 stars Buyer Beware, December 7, 2009
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This review is from: Hogan's Heroes: The Komplete Series, Kommandant's Kollection (DVD)
I currently own Hogan's Heroes SEPARATE season box sets. Picture quality is good, better than the Columbia House. Recently, I saw the box at my local Best Buy. Had to take a look. On the box, in VERY small print, they state that some content is edited. Translation.....syndicated episodes. When are they going to stop this madness? Is it bad enough they are "sweetening" this box by having a disc that is not available nowhere else but in this box, and then.......cutting episodes? I have looked for someone to write to about this but no luck. Until these problems are resolved, I'll live with my single box sets and wonder what I'm missing on the bonus disc.

Shout! Factory put out Season 1 of Mr. Ed with EIGHT syndicated episodes. They "rectified" the problem with Season 2 coming out with NO syndicated shows. How about #1? Is this a trend? Do they think we're stupid? I like to own this stuff, but I want to get what I pay for. Syndicated episodes are NOT complete, and should not be part of season or complete series box sets.
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Initial post: Dec 7, 2009 7:17:15 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 7, 2009 7:20:03 PM PST
G. Stanford says:
The episodes if they are edited they are not the syndicated edits, here are the running times of all the episodes and I can't see how they can be edited.

If they were 22-23 mins perhaps.

Season 1:

Disc 1:
The Informer (26:37)
Hold That Tiger (25:27)
Kommandant of the Year (25:31)
The Late Inspector General (25:30)
The Flight of the Valkyrie (25:31)
The Prisoner's Prisoner (25:31)
German Bridge is Falling Down (25:28)

Disc 2:
Movies Are Your Best Escape (25:31)
Go Light on the Heavy Water (25:31)
Top Hat, White Tie and Bomb Sights (25:32)
Happiness is a Warm Sergeant (25:30)
The Scientist (25:31)
Hogan's Hofbrau (25:32)
Oil for the Lamps of Hogan (25:31)

Disc 3:
Reservations are Required (25:31)
Anchors Aweigh, Men of Stalag 13 (25:32)
Happy Birthday, Adolph (25:31)
The Gold Rush (25:32)
Hello, Zolle (25:33)
It Takes a Thief... Sometimes (25:31)

Disc 4:
The Great Impersonation (25:31)
The Pizza Parlor (25:29)
The 43rd, a Moving Story (25:32)
How to Cook a German Goose with Radar (25:29)
Psychic Kommandant (25:30)
The Prince from the Phone Company (25:31)

Disc 5:
The Safecracker Suite (25:29)
I Look Better in Basic Black (25:31)
The Assassin (25:31)
Cupid Comes to Stalag 13 (25:31)
The Flame Grows Higher (25:30)
Request Permission to Escape (25:30)

Season 2:

Disc 1:
Hogan Gives a Birthday Party (25:34)
The Schultz Brigade (25:36)
Diamonds in the Rough (25:37)
Operation Briefcase (25:38)
The Battle of Stalag 13 (25:39)
The Rise and Fall of Sergeant Schultz (25:36)
Hogan Springs (25:34)

Disc 2:
A Klink, a Bomb and a Short Fuse (25:38)
Tanks for the Memory (25:35)
A Tiger Hunt in Paris, Part 1 (25:04)
A Tiger Hunt in Paris, Part 2 (25:37)
Will the Real Adolf Please Stand Up? (25:38)
Don't Forget to Write (25:36)
Klink's Rocket (25:34)

Disc 3:
Information Please (25:40)
Art for Hogan's Sake (25:39)
The General Swap (25:36)
The Great Brinksmeyer Robbery (25:38)
Praise the Fuhrer and Pass the Ammunition (25:38)
Hogan and the Lady Doctor (25:39)

Disc 4:
The Swing Shift (25:36)
Heil Klink (25:39)
Everyone Has a Brother-in-Law (25:35)
Killer Klink (25:38)
Reverend Kommandant Klink (25:37)
The Most Escape-Proof Camp I've Ever Escaped From (25:36)

Disc 5:
The Tower (25:23)
Colonel Klink's Secret Weapon (25:36)
The Top Secret Top Coat (25:22)
The Reluctant Target (25:20)

Season 3:

Disc 1:
The Crittendon Plan (25:26)
Some of Their Planes are Missing (25:22)
D-Day at Stalag 13 (25:20)
Sgt. Schultz Meets Mata Hari (25:22)
Funny Thing Happened On the Way to London (25:22)
Casanova Klink (25:23)

Disc 2:
How to Win Friends and Influence Nazis (25:22)
Nights in Shining Armor (25:22)
Hot Money (25:23)
One in Every Crowd (25:22)
Is General Hammerschlag Burning (25:22)
A Russian is Coming (25:20)

Disc 3:
Evening of the Generals (25:24)
Everybody Loves a Snowman (25:23)
The Hostage (25:24)
Carter Turns Traitor (25:23)
Two Nazis for the Price of One (25:22)
Is There a Doctor in the House? (25:25)

Disc 4:
Hogan, Go Home (25:22)
Sticky Wicket Newkirk (25:22)
War Takes a Holiday (25:24)
Duel of Honor (25:25)
Axis Annie (25:23)
What Time Does the Balloon Go Up? (25:25)

Disc 5:
Lebeau and the Little Old Lady (25:10)
How to Escape from a Prison Camp Without Really Trying (25:23)
The Collector General (25:20)
The Ultimate Weapon (25:25)
Monkey Business (25:20)
Drums Along the Dusseldorf (25:12)

Season 4:

Disc 1:
Clearance Sale at the Black Market (25:33)
Klink vs. the Gonculator (25:28)
How to Catch a Papa Bear (25:28)
Hogan's Trucking Service ... We Deliver the Factory to You (25:30)
To the Gestapo with Love (25:32)
Man's Best Friend is Not His Dog (25:33)
Never Play Cards with Strangers (25:27)

Disc 2:
Color the Luftwaffe Red (25:33)
Guess Who Came to Dinner? (25:29)
No Names Please (25:32)
Bad Day in Berlin (25:32)
Will the Blue Baron Strike Again? (25:25)
Will the Real Colonel Klink Please Stand Up Against the Wall? (25:33)
Man in a Box (25:31)

Disc 3:
The Missing Klink (25:35)
Who Stole My Copy of Mein Kampf? (25:30)
Operation Hannibal (25:31)
My Favorite Prisoner (25:27)
Watch the Trains Go By (25:30)
Klink's Old Flame (25:30)

Disc 4:
Up in Klink's Room (25:31)
The Purchasing Plan (25:29)
The Witness (25:33)
The Big Dish (25:34)
The Return of Major Bonacelli (25:35)
Happy Birthday, Dear Hogan (25:32)

Season 5:

Disc 1:
Hogan Goes Hollywood (25:32)
The Well (25:21)
The Klink Commandos (25:31)
The Gasoline War (25:35)
Unfair Exchange (25:28)
The Kommandant Dies at Dawn (25:30)
Bombsight (25:30)

Disc 2:
The Big Picture (25:36)
The Big Gamble (25:34)
The Defector (25:23)
The Empty Parachute (25:34)
The Antique (24:55)
Is There a Traitor in the House? (25:30)
At Last-Schultz Knows Something (25:29)

Disc 3:
How's the Weather? (25:20)
Get Fit or Go Fight (25:30)
Fat Hermann, Go Home (25:31)
The Softer They Fall (25:31)
Gowns by Yvette (24:55)
One Army at a Time (25:31)

Disc 4:
Standing Room Only (25:32)
Six Lessons from Madame LaGrange (25:36)
The Sergeant's Analyst (25:20)
The Merry Widow (25:32)
Crittendon's Commandos (25:31)
Klink's Escape (25:29)

Season 6:

Disc 1:
Cuisine à la Stalag 13 (25:12)
The Experts (25:14)
Klink's Masterpiece (25:07)
Lady Chitterly's Lover, Part 1 (25:10)
Lady Chitterly's Lover, Part 1 (25:11)
The Gestapo Takeover (25:07)

Disc 2:
Kommandant Schultz (25:11)
Eight O'Clock and All Is Well (25:11)
The Big Record (25:12)
It's Dynamite (25:08)
Operation Tiger (25:15)
The Big Broadcast (25:13)

Disc 3:
The Gypsy (24:16)
The Dropouts (25:11)
Easy Come, Easy Go (25:18)
The Meister Spy (25:16)
That's No Lady, That's My Spy (25:11)
To Russia Without Love (25:13)

Disc 4:
Klink for the Defense (25:11)
The Kamikazes Are Coming (25:14)
Kommandant Gertrude (25:14)
Hogan's Double Life (25:17)
Look at the Pretty Snowflakes (25:13)
Rockets or Romance (25:11)

Posted on Apr 15, 2010 3:55:33 PM PDT
Jeez-O-Pete says:
So... Are these edited versions or not? I want full and complete episodes. Has anyone compared the running time of Komplete set to those on the earlier-released sets?

Posted on Mar 17, 2011 9:48:03 PM PDT
Excellent reviews - both by that Top 500 guy and yourself. BTW, the syndication/truncation problem is even worse than most people state. Because in the earlier days of TV, there were fewer commercials, including with reruns soon-after. However, advertisers later got greedy and started adding in more and/or longer commercials. On top of that, even later where regular ads weren't crammed in, cable channels also began adding their own self-promoting commercials.

The result was three basic levels of truncation, each more terrible than the last. In many cases, entire epilogues were simply cut, confusing viewers as to the final outcome of the plot, as the end credits suddenly started rolling. Stick to the original separate season UNCUT versions? I couldn't think of any better advice!

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 6:48:10 AM PDT
Rojagert says:
Where is the editing? I compared the run times and they seem identical to me.

Posted on Jul 29, 2011 11:20:54 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Aug 3, 2011 3:20:04 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 3, 2011 3:21:05 AM PDT
Printed run times are not always accurate. One of the most butchered shows in my reference field has to be the sad case of the later Car 54 cable broadcasts. Hopefully the recent DVD collection of that show (not yet investigated) somehow managed to avoid this nightmare.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 11, 2011 7:28:37 AM PDT
Rojagert says:
So have you purchased this set? It seems these remarks are being made about what was read on a box at Best Buy. Has anyone actually purchased this set and compared the episodes to a single season set? I want to purchase this but it seems to me these are just assumptions right now. Thanks.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 21, 2011 1:12:33 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 22, 2011 1:14:58 AM PST
Breather says:
None of the Hogan's Heroes episodes are edited, neither in the separate season sets nor the complete series set. They are the exact same discs!! I own both. Be careful of assumptions by people who don't own the set. These episodes are identical to the separate set versions. Look for the "CBS/Paramount" label on the new set. "CBS" is the key. I've been informed by a home video/DVD journalist and the studio themselves that the disclaimer is added by CBS lawyers to all of their sets, including repackagings of previously released sets. It's to cover themselves. They've done this with every set they've put out. Even on repackagings like this, Frasier, and Cheers, they've added the disclaimer, even with the same exact discs(down to the artwork) from previous sets! Notice even the word "complete" is being removed from repackagings of old sets with the same exact discs!! Folks, rest assured, it's to cover themselves if it turns out they think a set is complete and a fan discovers 4 seconds missing from an old episode.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2011 12:15:25 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2011 12:56:40 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 22, 2011 8:01:26 PM PST
Breather says:
Sorry, but it's NOT a moot point at all, not now or in the future, as DVD is all we have for Hogan's Heroes and for most TV series for that matter. Most older TV series are unlikely to ever make it to Blu-ray.

There are NO PLANS for Hogan's Heroes on Blu-ray at this time and not in the foreseeable future, according to CBS/Paramount. This was recently stated by CBS/Paramount's home video division and by Gord Lacey of "TV Shows on DVD". According to them, the cost could not be recouped by the limited sales. In light of that, information about the DVD's is not only relevant today but also for the distant future. Therefore, it's very important for current and future consumers to SEE that the separate season releases AND complete series set of Hogan's Heroes on DVD contain the COMPLETE, UNEDITED episodes. DVD is all they will have available for purchase for a long, long time, if not forever, when it comes to this series and many others. Unless you count streaming, which I don't. So that water has not made it to the bridge yet and will likely never run under it.

I own both the separate seasons and the complete set. The discs are IDENTICAL. CBS/Paramount has no plans for Hogan on Blu-ray so this is all you can get and they are complete in both configurations on DVD.
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