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Powerful machine and great to work with,
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This review is from: Apple Mac Mini MC270LL/A Desktop (Discontinued by Manufacturer) (Personal Computers)
We've already put these new minis thru the paces here at Macminicolo and they're great. A few things to know:
-The RAM on these minis is VERY easy to upgrade. This machine comes with 2GB but can be upgraded to 8GB. Just twist off the bottom with your fingers and replace the RAM. (Literally, no tools required.)
- If you're looking to use the Mac mini connected to your TV, you'll be glad to hear that it now comes with HDMI. Nearly every current HDTV should have HDMI and it's a great fit.
- Speaking of TV watching, the new GPU (video card) is great. A wonderful upgrade.
- This Mac mini was reduced in power consumption AND the power brick is now internal instead of the big external one from before. That makes for a cleaner looking hookup.
- We use all our Mac minis as servers here and they're great. They run 24 hours a day and have no problems.
- This machine still has the IR capability so it can be controlled with the Apple Remote or one of the Harmony remotes with no problems.
All in all, a good upgrade.
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Initial post: Jun 17, 2010 1:32:12 AM PDT
Dereck Moath says:
Load XBMC for Mac, get a compatible remote, plug-in the HDMI to your Receiver or TV and you have the best Media Player in the market, with a full computer in your living room :)
Posted on Jun 17, 2010 10:10:58 AM PDT
The MacBook Pro offers two SSDs as options, a 256 and a 512.
Anyone mention why Apple doesn't offer the same SSDs as options for the Mac Mini? Is it a space problem?
Are the drives 1.8 or 2.5? One site said it was better to hook up external drive with Firewire than try to upgrade,
but have a 64 or 80 SSD as boot drive would speed things up.
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2010 10:22:34 AM PDT
Brian Stucki says:
Richard, I think those weren't offered in the Mac mini because it is a consumer product. Also, I believe one of the reasons they put it in laptops is because they are mobile and do better with movement. Both of these are just opinions.
The drives in this mini are 2.5in drive.
Posted on Jun 17, 2010 9:43:58 PM PDT
Romain Fravien says:
Other than streaming content from the web to your TV, I wonder about the benefit of a computer in the living room going forward. With the iPad, wouldn't one be better off having that in the living room as the computer, rather than a keyboard and mouse on the coffee table to deal with.
My take on the new Mini:
I think the price would not be so bad if they included a keyboard and mouse. That said, this is mainly meant for the living room and connected to an HDTV set. So technically, you would most likely run out and buy a wireless keyboard and mouse anyway even if they gave you the wired ones for free. No way Apple would give away free wireless.
I think Blu-Ray is over-rated, so it is not a "missing feature" in the latest version of the mine. Downloads and streaming is the future of the home theater experience.
Posted on Jun 18, 2010 5:02:32 PM PDT
I've looked at the new MacBook, with the white plastic frame, and that's a consumer product. No one would buy it to take on a business trip.
But the Mac Mini is being purchased by small businesses and used in arrays for online sales.
There are warranty issues when you replace the drive with a SSD. If anything goes wrong, there's no way to
switch it back before you send it in for servicing.
If Steve Jobs doesn't want a SSD in his eco-friendly baby... but the SSD is more eco-friendly. Less power at idle, etc.
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2010 10:05:49 PM PDT
Yes, people do take their white frame plastic MacBook's on business trips especially when its their business travel computer.
Yes, you can put the original Hard Disc back in if you need to return the mini for service so that their are no warranty issues.
SJ doesn't offer the mini with an SSD because thats not the market the mini is designed for. Their is no problem installing an SSD if you want one.
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 26, 2010 3:07:07 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 26, 2010 4:33:20 PM PDT
Ever learn the difference between "their" and "there"?
"their are no warranty issues"
"Their is no problem"
The mini is designed, in part, for Home Theater. SSD is much faster and quieter. Most
recommend keeping the hard drive in the machine for OS and putting movies on
external drives connected through Firewire.
"that's not the market the mini is designed for" is nonsense. You're paying $700
for a $450 computer because you want the Apple OS.
Gateway SX2840-01 is $560, has faster i3 and 6GB of memory.
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 26, 2010 3:38:59 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 26, 2010 3:40:16 PM PDT
Bruno Leite says:
Well, if you're talking ignorance you should be ashamed of asking "Is it a space problem?" in the first place.
Apple, as any other major computer maker, does not offer SSDs for its desktops, only for the mobile computers. And one could say "but the mini is so mini we could put it in the bag and take it around..." Yeah, no one is saying the Mac mini should be screw fixed to a desk, its just not marketed as a mobile device. And there is nothing preventing a consumer-intended product to be used in a business environment - that is for the mini as well as for the Macbook white or any other computer, including the Atom netbooks.
The mini is not, at first, designed for a Home-Theater. It is, however, being used from day one as a Media Center PC due to its size, and now the HDMI port replaces the old mini-DVI port, making things easier if you have a computer monitor supporting HDMI or just wanna add the new mini to your home-theater. The internal 2.5" hard-disk isn't noisier than your DVD player, you should go buy yourself a better set of speakers and a decent amp.
Now talking decent, tell me where you found a C2D P8600 with nVidia chipset, 320M graphics, dual video (including HDMI) and optical audio outputs, WiFi "n" and Bluetooth computer for US$ 400 or shut up!
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 26, 2010 4:42:04 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 26, 2010 5:24:13 PM PDT
Reply to: The mini is not, at first, designed for a Home-Theater.
Yeah, it was the HDMI output that gave it away.
The i3 chip in the Gateway SX2840-01 is current, the Core 2 Duo isn't.
6GB memory of 1333 vs. 2 GB
1TB SATA hard drive vs. 320 GB
Both offer HDMI
Gateway includes keyboard and mouse.
How far do you knock down the $560 price if you installed a smaller drive? Less Memory.
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 26, 2010 5:22:39 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 26, 2010 5:23:44 PM PDT
Bruno Leite says:
Dick, I don't like Steve Jobs' way of doing things. Being a Mac user for over five years now, I happen to have a list of things to say about him and Apple policies, but with the Mac mini we get every cent we pay for.
About the SSDs, I clearly answered you question when I said "Apple, as any other major computer maker, does not offer SSDs for its desktops, only for the mobile computers". Same as Gateway.
Your Gateway SX2840-01 is a big tower (3.9 x 13.9 x 10.4 inches) fiiled with big and energy inefficient components (serious, the mac mini takes nearly zero space and energy), no WiFi, no Bluetooth, no SSD, and it sells for $559.97-$579.99 - what just proves you are clueless, you're just being a d... never mind.
Gateway SX2840-01 Desktop PC (Black) (Discontinued by Manufacturer)
You said before this Mac mini was a $450 computer, you just proved yourself wrong.