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this tinted version is NOT Moroder's version,
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This review is from: Metropolis [VHS] (VHS Tape)This is the 139 minute, tinted version, with the disjointed music, distributed by "JEF films" and labeled "Aikman Archive" in yellow on the box. The sound is bad and the video quality is poor. For superior video quality, get the version produced by Kino Video instead. although the Kino version has a bad sound track, at least the video quality is very good. For superior sound, get the Moroder version of Metropolis.
This review assumes that you have already seen Metropolis. For those unfamiliar with Metropolis, it is considered "the" first SciFi movie -- the robot, the cool visual effects of future cities, and a few mad scientist lab scenes. But it is only a great movie IF you see the right version. Sadly, there are more then 6 versions of the film floating around --
Black/white, bad music, slow playback
B/W, bad music, fast playback
tinted, bad music, slow playback
tinted, good music, fast playback
plus a few versions with terrible video quality (the DVD version is such a case) and other versions with missing scenes, a non-logical flow to the story line due to bad editing, etc.
Unfortunately, the situation with prints of Metropolis is a bit of a mess. Those looking for the tinted Girogio Moroder sound track should NOT get this tape.
Although the run time of this version of the movie is 139 minutes, it is actually missing scenes that are in the 90 minute Kino Video and Moroder versions of the tape. The reason is that this 139 minute tape is run at a SLOWER speed than the Kino tape is. Also, the music is totally out of sync and unrelated to the action.
Unfortunately, Moroder's copy is not available from anywhere. At $24.95, I'd hoped that the folks at Amazon.com had found a copy but this is not the case. Someone should find a good copy of the Moroder tape, sell that, and burn all of the other versions. Although some people object to Moroder's rock soundtrack, at least it follows the story line and is an excellent sound track on its own.
I was fortunate enough to have seen Moroder's copy the first time I saw Metropolis and I am very glad that I did.
To add further insult to injury, the CD of Moroder's soundtrack is not the same as the music that appearred in the movie. The CD has some additional songs and is missing some others. So you can't redub a video from the CD. So don't get the "Moroder CD" and expect to remix your own copy of the video.
OK, having provided all of the background info, there is the review:
139-minute B&W version published by JEF films. The cover says it is a "newly restored version", but image quality is so bad that I would rather call it "newly destroyed version". It has actually more missing scenes than both Kino's and Moroder's versions, but runs longer because of slower frame speed.
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Initial post: Mar 19, 2007 10:43:55 AM PDT
Dorothy Huete says:
THANKS for the info! I have been frantically searching for the Moroder version of the film with the modern soundtrack, which a friend gave it to us years ago. We loved it, but unfortunately loaned it out and never got it back. I was very happy to get a replacement CD of the music, but have been very confused and frustrated trying to find the movie version we loved. Thanks for explaining the various versions so clearly. I join you in waiting and hoping for a proper film version with modern soundtrack.
Posted on Jul 7, 2008 10:02:41 AM PDT
M. Cover says:
Well, duh...of course it isn't the Moroder version. It says that it's teh original version, with a re-recorded score based on teh original. The 80 minute Moroder version is a classic too, but don't trash a movie & only give it 3 stars because it wasn't the one you were looking for.
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2008 5:28:35 PM PST
Alric Knebel says:
I don't think this guy is remarking on the Kino version. I think he review ended up here as a result of the way Amazon shuffles these reviews around, however their website program works. I've noticed this again and again in these older movies, when it seems like a reviewer is off the chain, but after a while, clues reveal that they're actually talking about a different edition. In the case above, it's not this reviewers fault. Someone should contact Amazon and tell them about this, as I've seen some cases in which the reviews were important, and I couldn't tell what the reviewer was referring to.
Posted on Jan 12, 2009 10:57:48 PM PST
"although the Kino version has a bad sound track, at least the video quality is very good."
The Gottfried Huppertz on the Kino version a "bad soundtrack." Hardly! You must be talking about a different print, because the original orchestra soundtrack is FANTASTIC. The Kino Metropolis edition is the only one I recommend. Make sure of what version you're getting!
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 18, 2009 7:25:38 AM PST
Craig S. Thom says:
If you read the review (I know, that's a novel concept, but give it a try) he is reviewing an earlier 90 minute Kino version. The review was written in 1999, so clearly it's not the current verson.
Posted on Feb 24, 2009 9:34:41 AM PST
Brian Cummings says:
the moroder version is pretty decent, but the music is not at all the original score (yes, there was one!) It can still be found on laserdisc and would be the best method of re-recording for a dvd release known at this time (without the original film of course)
I've heard tell that a good chunk of the original film was found recently, and am hoping for a more complete version of Lang's phenomenal vision. I agree that the Kino version is the best of the current remasters, although I have seen others that have some different scenes in them as well.. if we could just combine the lot of them into one coherent film i would be happy to spend almost any money on it.
Posted on Jul 19, 2009 2:05:58 AM PDT
Star Bux says:
So, was the Moroder version EVER released on dvd?
In reply to an earlier post on Feb 25, 2010 7:56:13 PM PST
Kimberly James says:
I would like to find it too. I saw it in the theater in the 80's and I cant believe it is so rare. 2 VHS tapes for $200+ each is all I could find! No dvd's of the 80's version with the correct (80's) soundtrack on it.
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2010 2:42:01 AM PDT
I am fortunate enough to possess a proper copy of the Moroder version on videotape which I bought when the film was first (re) released in cinemas in the 80's. It is a Roadshow Home Video release which cost me the then staggering sum of $150. According to the box it has a running time of "approximately 82 minutes" and is in stereo. One of these days I'll copy it to DVD...
Posted on Sep 19, 2010 10:33:12 PM PDT
Greg Purdy says:
I do not believe that I could add any more to the praise for Fritz Lang's ground-breaking SciFi classic. Instead I will just add a bit of information for someone that is trying to track down a copy of Giorgio Moroder's fantastic version with his Rock based soundtrack which is 87 minutes long.
The Giorgio Moroder version of Metropolis was released on VHS by Vestron Video, PO Box 4000, Stamford, Ct 06907. The VHS tape has a part number of VA5090 and a UPC of 0-28485-15090. I was lucky enough to buy this from a Video store clerk for $85 about 18 years ago. As I do have respect for the artistic quest to see this in it's original format and music, I am shallow enough to prefer the rock sound track as it is really fun to watch.
From what I have read in the past, there was not a DVD release of this version as the copyright license for some of the rock music score had expired.
If you are looking for a digital version, the Moroder version was also released on Laser Disc. You know... those 12 inch big discs. They are out there if you are lucky enough to find them and can buy a player that still works. I have heard of some Laser Disc copies to DVD being available, but that could be urban legend.
This version would of course be perfect for re-mastering to Blu-ray. One can only hope.