Customer Review

112 of 121 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Worth a Close Look, December 20, 2001
This review is from: A New Christianity for a New World: Why Traditional Faith Is Dying and How a New Faith Is Being Born (Hardcover)
It's easy to see why Bishop Spong remains not only one of the most articulate and controversial theologians of the day, but the bane of orthodox Christianity the world over. Within the first three chapters of this book he manages to dispel almost every tenant of the faith from the Virgin Birth to the Resurrection to the Ascension, all the while vigorously insisting he is still a Christian, a claim which seems tantamount to claiming to be a great lumberjack while living in a land devoid of forests. I know he believes he is a Christian and in the respect he considers himself a follower of Christ, he probably is. What he espouses in this book, however, has absolutely no resemblance to any Christianity I've ever encountered.
What he does provide, however, is a refreshing breath of air into a world of stagnate faith. Unlike most liberal theologians, instead of merely demonstrating why the old stories no longer have any relevance in our modern age, he provides a viable blueprint to understanding Christ (and, by default, God) in a newer, fuller way. No longer seeing God in purely theistic terms (by which, I assume, he means transcendent) he outlines a theology that has more in common with New Age thought or eastern philosophy than western religion. Though nothing in his book is entirely new or particularly revolutionary in and of itself, his effort to merge an eastern concept of God within the framework of Christianity is nothing if not unique. While I found myself agreeing with much of what he had to say, however, I wasn't convinced his efforts to "reform" Christianity had any chance of being successful. The traditions are too deeply imbedded in the western psyche to respond to his message; the dogmas too entrenched to be moved by even his most reasoned and passionate pleas for reform. Even so, I can't help but admire his courage for at least trying.
What I wonder about is why he even bothers to try and reform Christianity at all. Since he maintains that all paths ultimately lead to God (although I would question that) then what is the point of reforming any of those paths at all? Why not let traditionalists find God through the well worn path of orthodox Christianity and let those who no longer find that path useful leave it and find another? Both the Unitarians and the Bahais, for example, maintain inclusive theological traditions very similar to those expressed by Bishop Spong. In fact, in much of this book Spong comes across sounding like a Unitarian who just doesn't realize he is one.
The book also suffers a few other flaws as well, though none of them fatal. For example, he deftly glosses over Jesus' miracles instead of dealing with them directly, dismissing all of them as decades later efforts to mythologize Jesus of Nazareth. I personally find such an attitude disingenuous. Not everything Jesus is reported to have done and said in the Gospels can be written off as mere mythologizing! If we are to take the good Bishop's word for it, the gospels are nothing more than a record of the many things Jesus never really said or did making them, as far as I can see, irrelevent to any discussion of the man.
Yet at the same time, Spong seems to take the Gospels as an accurate record of Jesus' teachings when they suit his needs. For example, he uses the flawed liberal tactic of having Jesus endorse his own political/social agenda based upon what he doesn't say. As an ardent gay rights activist he correctly notes that Jesus nowhere condemns homosexuality in the Gospel texts, and uses that to imply that he therefore endorsed such practices. This is the classic argument from silence tactic which finally proves nothing. Jesus also never directly addresses the issues of sado/masochism, cross-dressing, or body piercing for that matter; to assume that he endorses any particular behavior or lifestyle based upon what he doesn't say is just that: an assumption.
Yet if these are the biggest problems with Bishop Spong's book, we should be thankful. Overall, he has given us an excellent, thought-provoking,, and usually well-articulated piece of work that should give every free-thinking man and woman much to consider. For them, this book will help many who are sitting on the fence find relief from the stifling air of orthodoxy and bring them into a world of new possibilities. For the traditionalists, however, I'm afraid John Shelby Spong will remain a crazed heretic who threathens the very foundations of western civilization. And they would be correct, of coure: Bishop Spong is a threat-a threat to every closed mind that claims exclusive rights to and knowledge of God, and for that everyone should be grateful.
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No

[Add comment]
Post a comment
To insert a product link use the format: [[ASIN:ASIN product-title]] (What's this?)
Amazon will display this name with all your submissions, including reviews and discussion posts. (Learn more)
Name:
Badge:
This badge will be assigned to you and will appear along with your name.
There was an error. Please try again.
Please see the full guidelines here.

Official Comment

As a representative of this product you can post one Official Comment on this review. It will appear immediately below the review wherever it is displayed.   Learn more
The following name and badge will be shown with this comment:
 (edit name)
After clicking the Post button you will be asked to create your public name, which will be shown with all your contributions.

Is this your product?

If you are the author, artist, manufacturer or an official representative of this product, you can post an Official Comment on this review. It will appear immediately below the review wherever it is displayed.  Learn more
Otherwise, you can still post a regular comment on this review.

Is this your product?

If you are the author, artist, manufacturer or an official representative of this product, you can post an Official Comment on this review. It will appear immediately below the review wherever it is displayed.   Learn more
 
System timed out

We were unable to verify whether you represent the product. Please try again later, or retry now. Otherwise you can post a regular comment.

Since you previously posted an Official Comment, this comment will appear in the comment section below. You also have the option to edit your Official Comment.   Learn more
The maximum number of Official Comments have been posted. This comment will appear in the comment section below.   Learn more
Prompts for sign-in
 

Comments

Tracked by 1 customer

Sort: Oldest first | Newest first
Showing 1-2 of 2 posts in this discussion
Initial post: Jul 6, 2010 7:24:31 AM PDT
Amicus says:
Hi, a great review, but I have one question:

Where did you read that Spong has "an eastern view" of God?

You wrote: "his effort to merge an eastern concept of God within the framework of Christianity is nothing if not unique." But, Spong never espouses an eastern concept of God, polytheistic, pantheistic, or whatever. Spong clearly states over and over that he rejects a "theistic God."

He rejects monotheism, he rejects polytheism, he rejects panentheism, he rejects pantheism, he rejects ALL THEISMS.

The word "atheist" means "NOT THEIST." Doesn't this describe Spong, who insists very forcefully that he rejects ALL theisms? Understandably, a retired Bishop drawing his pension from a church would not be inclined to call himself "atheist" in a straightforward way; but how much more clear can he get?

Spong only claims to believe in God when he re-defines the word "God" to mean our human experience of life, love and existence. Thus he speaks of a "God-experience" in life, in love, and in being. God himself has no existence as an entity at all, according to Spong. Spong's God is a human good-feelie experience of living, loving and being.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 24, 2011 12:54:20 PM PDT
James G. Lee says:
Well, yeah, Spong meets my definition of "atheist" also. I am an atheist and I know of nothing that Spong has written about religion with which I would disagree.

If someone wishes to redefine words like god, religion, prayer and so forth to mean something meaningful to me, then great. No need to be prejudice against certain words. Words are just words. LOL.
‹ Previous 1 Next ›

Review Details

Item

Reviewer


Location: Lakewood, Colorado United States

Top Reviewer Ranking: 22,971,633