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Space Metal with a dash of reality,
This review is from: A Beautiful Lie (Audio CD)
OK. First the venting.
I just hate having to listen to or be associated with inexperienced listeners when they think they know what they're talking about. I hear a lot of comparisons to The Used and even Nickelback, and Breaking Benjamin. The worst part is that these off base comparisons go one step further and accuse 30 seconds of TRYING to be like them.
If you have been listening to music for years and actually paying attention, you'd realize that 30 seconds can be said to sound influenced by MANY bands of the 80s and some 90s (the Cure, U2, depeche mode, deftones, orgy, incubus, bjork etc). But to skip that step and think that a 30 something like Leto would be trying to copy The Used is so uninsightful it should be stricken from memory.
ON to the album.....OK while still venting.
People's first reactions to new discs are often extreme regarding bands they like. Its so painfully obvious here. Its just not true that 30 seconds lost their sound. I admit that there is probably less of what stuck out as a futuristic sound. The album is probably farther down the scale from avante garde to mainstream. But there is so much in common with the last album.
I actually had a song in my head today and had to ask myself which album it was off of. (this is partly because it seemed too familiar to be coming from a week old disc, and partly because THE DISCS HAVE A LOT IN COMMON).
So take comfort in the fact that you have a very good disc from the same band (what have you done in the last 3 years lazies - myself included). And if they write enough material, you might get everything you're looking for over time. But in the meantime we have to remember that we got lucky that the first album sounded just right to us....and this one is closer to that particular sound than anything else out there. In fact many people will like this one more...they just didn't buy the album the first week because they weren't fans yet.
My friends and I actually managed to harass Leto after a show about 3 years ago, and asked him where they could go on future albums considering they had such a strong and unusual theme. He didn't have an extravagant answer, but just said not to take the Mars thing too literally, that its more of a symbol of reaching out.
So it only makes sense that the lyrical and sonic direction of future discs is going to go much more into the realm of the reality we know and only occasionally go head first into the "space metal" thing.
I think the Mars thing is an appealing escape, but who can make their entire music career (every song, every album cover, every lyric) relate to such an abstract idea. There has to be room for real world subject matter and a real world feel to come in also.
But yea....hopefully plenty more creative and unusual space metal to come.
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Initial post: May 5, 2007 10:04:06 AM PDT
shut up. don't rant about how you know music better than other people, you don't. The bands you listed as influence are just your interpretation of their sound. so please don't act like you are the king of music because frankly, this music is far from the talents of other bands. yes they are fun to listen to but it is a self-involved album that talks about the reality of his life, which is being over killed by all these new bands.
In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2007 1:06:23 AM PDT
Except that he's right. 30STM sounds nothing like the bands he claims other people are comparing them to.
To make such comparisons is, for lack of a better word, ignorant.
In reply to an earlier post on May 20, 2007 7:46:23 AM PDT
no it is not. leto's voice is unique and poweful but the whole album just uses different powercords just like the other bands. they aren't totally alike, but they compare a lot more to the used then bjork or U2 . 30stm does by no means use abstract ideas or themes either. radiohead and pink floyd do a much better job of this.
Posted on May 27, 2007 10:05:03 AM PDT
30 Seconds to Mars is not unique or spacey. And it is most definitely not metal unless you consider mallcore a genre of the aforementioned. Your comparisons are as terrible as those you denounce.
And seriously... metal? I mean it bears no similarity to metal. Not even to metalcore or numetal, which I would protest isn't metal at all. I'm totally baffled by your review because of this and not just because I dislike 30STM. Frankly they're not bad... they just aren't good either. It's uninspired and uninteresting but there's nothing to dislike about it.
Seriously... I'm baffled.
Posted on Jun 8, 2007 9:59:22 PM PDT
Keith A. Wellman says:
My main point of listing bands I think they're influenced by is that they might sound like "the used" or some other new millenium act, but thats because 30 seconds took the same path as that new act, rather than that 30 seconds listened to some new band and tried to imitate the new band.
As for calling them "space metal" that's really just a phrase I think sounds fun. I'm really not that into categorizing by genre.
After listening to this album more I would say that it doesn't really have the same overall unique feel as the first. But I stick to my point that they should just keep making music because over time i think there's a good chance they'd make a lot of music that fans of the first album or others would like - maybe no single album would have the same impact, but it would be something.
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2007 7:13:22 PM PST
they are not metal dude. "space rock" makes more sense. do u hear Slayer in their songs? no...they have more of The Cure in their sound than anything and they're the complete opposite of metal.
Posted on Jan 10, 2008 11:54:41 AM PST
Sorry, Man...couldn't get past the pretentiousness of your first paragraph.
Posted on Jan 24, 2008 6:20:07 PM PST
A. Bell says:
Yes!! Thank you, Niburu- that's exactly what I thought!
Also, what is an "unexperienced" listener? Someone who has never listened to music before? Can't we just accept that every person listens to different music, for different reasons and we all appreciate it in our own way. I might tune into something thought-provoking one moment and something silly just for the fun of it the next. Please don't presume that I don't understand the music I listen to or that I'm incapable of fully appreciating it!
Although, I do have to agree- "space metal" is a fun phrase. = )
Posted on Apr 26, 2008 4:22:08 PM PDT
does this cd has like special material, videos or something?? why is it so expensive??
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