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Bare bones and incomplete, but what's here is good,
This review is from: The Hunt For Red October: Music From The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (Audio CD)The tracks herein correspond exactly to those in the Special Collector's Edition DVD version of the film - no 're-recorded to get a musically superior version' nonsense.
The tracks do not correspond not to their order in the film, but to the ordering used on the audio cassette, which in turn was organized so that the length of each 'side' would work out - a limitation that didn't need to be carried over to the CD. The end title sequence was omitted altogether, which is a pity. The crew of Red October singing their national anthem a capella was also omitted (as were the whalesongs accompanying Seaman Beaumont's sonar 101 lessons).
In short, the musical content of the CD is great as far as it goes, but missing some of the film's memorable musical moments, and the organization could've been better. The covering material inside the CD doesn't provide any details about the soundtrack other than the credits for composition, music editing, and so on.
I'll indicate which parts of the film correspond to each track, to help people decide for themselves what they'll be getting out of this CD.
"Hymn to Red October" (Main Title) *sounds* like traditional Russian patriotic music, sung in Russian by a male choir, but the composition is original to this film. Although a small excerpt is played very quietly across our first view of Ramius, the song actually begins when the tug appears to tow RED OCTOBER out of Polijarny, fading in gradually at the end of Ramius' opening conversation with his second-in-command. The 'prologue' is timed perfectly to transition to the almost-a capella section just as the title comes up (I admire the film's sound editing, as well as the original score). The song ends just as Jack's CIA escort meets him at the airport in DC.
"Nuclear Scam" should follow "Chopper"; it begins just after Mancuso and Ramius have their Morse conversation, setting up the scam and arranging the meeting at the Laurentian Abyssal (the nearest place deep enough to fake a sinking). The song accompanies the entire scam sequence, ending with Admiral Greer's line, "I was never here."
"Putin's Demise" Putin was the political officer killed early in the film, so that RED OCTOBER's real orders could be replaced. The song actually begins just after his death, with Ramius' words, "Where I am going, you cannot follow." (The CD's version of the song is a bit longer than that in the film, which picks up with the woodwind solo, but the rest of the song is included in the film, ending with Ramius' bonfire-with-phone-call.)
The transition to the missile key scene has been omitted from the CD, as has that accompanying the transition between DALLAS' sonar crew and Ramius looking at both keys before his speech.
"Course Two-Five-Zero" begins just as the caterpillar drive is engaged, and seems to be repeated with Ramius' line "course 250". (The CD doesn't include the sonar FX, which is a pity as the sounds mesh well.)
Various omissions occur at this point, including
- the march recording underlying the arrival of Ramius' letter; it's an instrumental version of the song sung by RED OCTOBER's crew (also omitted)
- the music accompanying Ryan's epiphany about what Ramius is doing (but it's somewhat similar to "Course Two-Five-Zero")
- the piece accompanying Tupolov's notification that he's to help hunt Ramius down
"Ancestral Aid" should follow "Red Route I", as it accompanies RED OCTOBER's close encounter with the torpedo and the Neptune Massif. The singing resembles that of "Hymn to Red October".
"Chopper" (Ryan's trip to the DALLAS, beginning with the cut from DALLAS to the helicopter) Underlying string harmony is in time with the chopper blades' beat - nice job of matching cinematography with music.
"Two Wives" is noted as not contained in the film. It's *not* the music accompanying the conversation between Ramius and his second-in-command actually containing that line (during the Crazy Ivan sequence).
"Red Route I" begins with Ramius' "You may commence your run" as RED OCTOBER passes Thor's Twins to enter the underwater canyons, ending as the sabotage to the caterpillar drive makes its presence known.
"Plane Crash" should fall between "Ancestral Aid" and "Chopper", as it begins during Ryan's first morning aboard the aircraft carrier, specifically at the point "His wingman kept requesting permission to fire," when Ryan notices the DALLAS on the situation map, ending as Ryan realizes he's going to have to travel by chopper.
The music (with heavy bongo) accompanying the beginning of the battle sequence isn't included; neither is that accompanying the initial pursuit of the saboteur through RED OCTOBER, although the latter part is included in "Kaboom!!!" The final piece on the CD picks up somewhere near the end of the battle, when Tupolov's ill-fated torpedo is launched.
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Initial post: Sep 22, 2010 10:55:48 AM PDT
A. Nemec says:
Im having alot of trouble finding the original film version of "hymn to red october"- all that i can find to download, at least, is an english version..the russian is MUCH better. before i spend more money on my hunt for the hunt for red october (haha) song, i want to make sure- is the version on this CD the original russian? thanks!
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 25, 2011 3:58:41 PM PDT
Not sure anyone has responded to this - the version on the CD is the one that appears in the film in the original Russian language.
Posted on Mar 25, 2011 4:16:34 PM PDT
Thanks Michele for taking the time to discuss how these tracks are ordered in the film. I always like to listen to them in film order if possible, and I have arranged them that way in a playlist on my iPod. I thought I'd expand on what you have here by saying that the track that underscores the scene in the film where Connery and Sam Neill discuss plans after reaching the US is actually from another Basil Poledouris score, "No Man's Land"(1987). The track is called "Payoff" and is actually credited in Hunt For Red October's end credits. The soundtrack was released on a Varese Sarabande CD in 1987 (long out of print) but it was reissued on CD on the Prometheus label along with an expanded "Cherry 2000" score in 2004. The way the piece appears in Red October is a slightly truncated version of the full "Payoff" cue. I always liked the effect this cue has in the film as it's more ominous than "Two Wives" (which is a beautiful cue). Director McTiernan probably temp-tracked the scene with "Payoff" and just really wanted to use it in the final film despite the fact that Basil wrote new music for it. I'm glad the soundtrack's producers gave we fans the opportunity to hear how Basil "heard" it when he composed the music for the scene. Also of note is the film's end credits cue, which is a music editor's combining of the beginning of the "Hymn" cue, mixed with excerpts from "Nuclear Scam", notably without the choral sections in some spots. Poledouris may not have had time to write an "end title" cue - I have read he had very little time to score the picture in the first place. Here's hoping we see an expanded, full-score release of the soundtrack soon -- this original is now itself long out of print. Thanks again for a great review here.
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