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2.0 out of 5 stars Doesn't walk the walk, March 24, 2012
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I am sorry to say that bands like this that claim to be "Christian" based in values and content but fail to provide any kind of message that relates to that are simply in it for the money. I tried very hard to get any kind of positive message from this and all I got was some mediocre screamo band bowing to pier pressure and pandering to an audience that doesn't actually understand what they are listening to. I invite anyone to tell me where the "Christian" content is in this bands body of work.
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Initial post: Mar 29, 2012 11:49:23 AM PDT
G. Strath says:
So it's bad music because it's not "Christian" enough? Well, it's too bad the lyrics weren't filled with enough "faith" for you. It's too bad they weren't "uplifting" enough. And it's too bad you weren't able to hear this band for what it is: a metalcore band. They're not a group of preachy gospel singers trying to throw the Word of God down our throats. No offense to Christianity or Christians, but some of you need to learn to hear music as MUSIC and not as pious messages to be forced into the minds of non-believers. I personally love Norma Jean and think they write some good music. "Redeemer" and "Meridional" albums in particular. If you disagree, please write a review that reflects how they SOUND, and don't make the quality of music about how Christian it is.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2012 7:47:15 AM PDT
You nailed it. His comment should be removed. Unfair for this to have a 2 star rating because of his biased opinion.

Posted on Apr 7, 2012 12:49:47 PM PDT
A. Ellis says:
Actually, there are various spiritual and blatantly christian messages strewn throughout Bless The Martyr and Kiss The Child. In one song, almost a third of the song is dedicated to the message of spiritual warfare spoken of in the bible in which it says "Our fight is not against flesh and blood...", in the song the lyrics "Our war is not with someone like you. Your weapons are useless. Like bringing a knife to a gunfight." are directly analogous to the biblical message. On another track from the same record Joshua comes right and screams "Christ is not a fashion, fading away." and he is well known for yelling such blatantly, and openly christian messages at live shows (even in the Chariot he does this at live shows, Ive witnessed it happen, its awesome). Im not too well versed on the lyrics of their newer stuff, but ive heard from people that Corey Brandon is similarly open about his faith, and most, if not all, of the members of the band over the years have been or are christians. If thats not enough for you, then sorry, but Norma Jean isnt here to be christian enough for you. They have to live their own lives, and perform their own music, and they answer to God for what they say and do.

Posted on May 11, 2012 2:35:54 AM PDT
Eric says:
I am positively baffled at your review. Do you even listen to Norma Jean?

Posted on Nov 22, 2012 8:07:36 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 22, 2012 8:10:33 AM PST
grindmetal says:
all christian music needs to be is music that christians can listen to without hearing anti christian themes/lyrics. yes its nice if christian music talks of christ and faith and such but it is not necessary. personally i like it when christian bands talk about how everyday life isnt just lollypops and bubble gum. and like an earlier post said if u ever actually learned what they say there are songs that have obvious biblical influences.

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Posted on Mar 12, 2013 10:34:07 PM PDT
J. Shorter says:
If you like this style, but want the hardcore faith message and praise/worship lyrics to boot, check out their pre-Norma Jean incarnation as Luti-Kriss. They had two albums, "5", and "Throwing Myself". These two albums are so blatantly Christian as to be impossible to miss, even with the screamed vocals. I don't have "5", but I've heard the songs for myself (two or three of them), and they're far and away Christ-centered.

As for your review, I comprehend what you're saying. I used to feel that way, too. Maturing and growing in faith is what eventually releases you from feeling the pressure for everything to "sound" Christian. A lot of what they say is very Christian-based, even if it isn't directly quoting from the Bible. These guys know what they stand for, and why. They're not ashamed of their faith. They've just chosen to portray it in a unique and exciting way that draws listeners of math-core in. Faith is more than what you hear. It must be lived out.

Posted on May 10, 2013 8:29:56 AM PDT
Tablet says:
Pier pressure, huh? You know you've been at the beach too long when they're building ON you.
Also, the xian message is kill yourself.

Posted on Jul 6, 2013 1:57:16 PM PDT
T. Welborn says:
First, please provide a review of the music on this album instead of telling us one reason you don't like this band. If you want to take away stars because you don't approve of the lyrics, that's fine. But this review is not helpful to most people. Also, how are piers putting pressure on them? If that's the case, perhaps they should stay away from the docks.

Posted on Aug 8, 2013 11:51:28 AM PDT
KB Dave says:
So for a band to label themselves as "Christian," their faith isn't good enough, they have to preach it incessantly as well? I would say that this is surprising, but then again, a lot of Christians feel that they need to preach to everyone anyway. A band can be full of Christians and not sing about God.

Also LOL at "pier pressure."
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