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Well "balanced" release,
This review is from: Apple MacBook Pro MC700LL/A 13.3-Inch Laptop (OLD VERSION) (Personal Computers)
Apple always knew the way of maximizing profit: 2010 model were a step up but drawn back on the CPU, 2011 model had a huge step up on CPU, but drawn back on its graphic.
2010 model overview: 2.4ghz Core 2 duo, gt320m
2011 model overview: 2.3ghz Core i5, Intel HD3200
The graphic card went from a discrete graphic card to a on board graphic, which is a huge let down for me, as a fan.
All the new thunderbolt technology is a step up, but think about this. USB 3 or Thunderbolt, I'd say USB 3 will be more popular and more useful. Another let down is the limited connectivity of Thunderbolt.
If you are using this for school, word, internet surfing, general school work. Go for it.
If you are using this for designing, I'd say you get the 15" or above since the graphic card boost in PS and other designing software really do take effect.
If you are using this to show off, GO FOR IT! You will receive envious looks when you take it out.
If you are using this to Game, save your money and get a gaming laptop, not this
If you are using this for music, save your money for HP Envy Beats(although it is recently sold out, but you can get it on ebay). Envy Beats is almost like a MBP copy, its got the feel to it. And the Black-and-Red design grants it a new style. The CPU, graphic, and sound is more well balanced on it.
PS: Yes, I did buy this. The OSX is very well optimised, it is much better than Windows, but there is too many program that I use that does not support OSX, which compels me to dual boot with boot camp.
Side notes: Look into the program called "Crossover". It virtually emulate windows for certain programs to work.
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Initial post: Feb 28, 2011 10:04:50 PM PST
Laptop Magazine just published an online review of this 13" 2011 MBP, and the 2010 model with its two+ year old C2D processor, but with an nVidia 320M processor outperformed this 2011 Apple model with Intel HD graphics on every graphics test.
If you buy this you don't even want to think about _last years_ Envy as that slaughters this 2011 MBP, and the Envy is about to be refreshed with the Sandy Bridge processor and a new AMD discrete GPU.
This is ugly.
Why is that when Apple has so much money? Apple could easily fix the problem with some R&D spending, but they will not do it.
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 1, 2011 2:00:35 AM PST
Glenn R. Howes says:
Thanks for the reference to the Laptop Magazine review. The magazine folks were quite complimentary about other aspects of this machine, especially the long battery life, which apparently is best in class.
If you want someone to blame for the lack of a discrete GPU, it's Intel for using its CPU business to want to take away NVidia's GPU business. Apple had the choice between making the 13 inch larger, cutting back on the battery or adding a discrete GPU, and they made a design decision to remove the discrete GPU. It's unfortunate but it was not something they could easily fix. Next year, when they remove the optical drive, they'll have some room to play with.
Posted on Mar 1, 2011 6:58:06 AM PST
M. Aubrey says:
"The graphic card went from a discrete graphic card to a on board graphic, which is a huge let down for me, as a fan.'"
This is a common misconception. The Nvidia Card in the previous model was not a discrete graphics card. It was integrated. And it was the last integrated card Intel would allow Nvidia to make for its systems. Apple was forced to go with Intel graphics because Intel wouldn't allow Nvidia to make integrated graphics any more and quite simply, there's not much space for a discrete card on a 13" laptop.
Posted on Mar 2, 2011 12:01:26 PM PST
I guess you're just an average user (non technical)...
2.4ghz Core 2 duo is SLOWER yes SLOWER than 2.3ghz Core i5.
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 2, 2011 1:24:41 PM PST
No one in this thread said the C2D processor was faster.
The nVidia processor on last years C2D model was faster than the Intel HD3000 graphics processor on this new model.
Read with more care.
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 2, 2011 9:57:57 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 2, 2011 10:03:52 PM PST
Mr. Feltersnatch says:
why would you recommend the envy? this is a 13 inch laptop.
Envy 13 has been discontinued since 2009. you can find it in the bargain bin now.
Posted on Mar 2, 2011 10:05:19 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 2, 2011 10:09:22 PM PST
Jayden Jin says:
I actually checked out Envy, and I'd gotta say, I like it more than macbook lol
Black+red is my favorite combo, and the red back-lit just made it better. Not to mention the hardware specs.
If you really wanted bang-4-buck, you would'nt choose Apple
Apple's stuff is more "service" based. I mean.. you ever been to an apple store? lol
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 2, 2011 10:06:02 PM PST
What "bargain bin" can I find the Envy 13?
What significant difference is there between the Envy 14 and the MBP 13 in terms of size?
Perhaps you're looking for the Samsung Series 9 900X3A?
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 2, 2011 11:24:15 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 2, 2011 11:24:58 PM PST
Mr. Feltersnatch says:
pretty hard to find now but here... right on the HP site.
at the bottom where it says...
"Refurbished ENVY Notebook PCs (click column headers to sort)"
HP Envy 13-1030nr W7HP-64 Duo2 SL9400 1.86GHz 250GB 3GB(1DM) 13.1HD(1366x768) WLAN BT NIC 2-in-1 ATI Radeon HD 4330 Rmkt NB PC for promo price $818.35
"What significant difference is there between the Envy 14 and the MBP 13 in terms of size?"
I cared. I wanted a 13 inch, which is why I know there are no contenders to the Macbook Pro 13 inch in the 13 inch category. The ONLY 13 inch laptop that is better is the sony Vaio Z but that is extremely expensive.
Even Thinkpad and Dell also scrapped their high end 13 inch laptops.
It's really unfortunate cause I was a PC man but there was no PC available. Oh, well. I am still very happy with my decision.
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2011 12:15:32 AM PST
What about the Samsung Series 9 900X3A?